Ok lets see if I can make sense of this Approximately one-half of unintended pregnancies end in abortion. Approximately half of all women choosing abortion were using birth control If they were using birth control I imagine the pregnancy was unintended so all of those who got pregnant or most had their contraceptive fail
Maybe it help you to understand that the average couple will have sex 100 - 200 times in the first year they are sexually active. So we are talking a failure rate of possibly once every 100+ times a contraceptive is used each year. S**t happens.
Once more: 1. Half of all pregnancies are unintended, so half ARE intended. 2. Half of all unintended pregnancies are aborted, so half of unintended pregnancies end in birth. 3. Half of all women who chose abortion were using birth control, so half of the women choosing abortion were NOT using birth control. Is this too hard?
Why not, after all it is not they that have to carry it to term and if it was one of their loved ones I am sure they could get "removed" on the sly or just shun the person like the Good Old Days.
Look personally I oppose all abortion but Im a libertarian so i also believe its not my business to tell a woman what to do or get government involved. So Im willing to compromise at 20 weeks as thats also when a fetus starts feeling pain. I still have a hard time justifying it as I also see it as murder and think it has been used to keep down minorities not make things better for them. Most of these liberal positions make things worse Anything after week 20 is barbaric
This bill was not blocked because it stopped late term abortion, it was stopped because it defends planned parenthood, which provides healthcare far and beyond abortion.
And the abortion and STD numbers show that our decades upon decades of "education" isnt working either. If it was...well we wouldnt be discussing this. Sure, lets double down on a failing idea of the solution while ignoring the real problem. irresponsibility and convenience.
Yes, seriously. There was one or two of the Repub candidates, I can't remember which 'cause they all look like shady used car salesmen, who said definitely ," NO abortion for rape". I can't imagine how anyone can hate women that much......and then broadcast it publically!!! The only thing more stupid is the person who would vote for him.
Sure, let's ignore education (which IS working but education has always been a bugaboo for Repubs) and concentrate on trying to legislate responsibility and "convenience" (?) to suit certain people....that sounds just plain stupid.
I don't think a woman should be able to abort a fetus after 4 months. If you can't decide by then if you want to keep it or not, tough.
Legislating responsibility and convenience in this topic isnt as hard as you might think. Once the Planned Parenthoods are put under control...or out of business, and this all too easy option is made less available...people will have to go back to the days of being responsible for themselves. At least in more numbers than they are right now. nothing will be perfect, but we can certainly stem this tide a bit...and should.
Do please give me the dates in the history of the world where abortion didn't happen. DO give the dates that all people were all "responsible for themselves" .... You seem to think Planned Parenthood invented abortion and if health clinics that provide abortions are shut down abortions will just stop, a very "erroneous", myopic, view. Women who choose abortion for a kid they don't want and/or can't afford ARE being responsible. (and NO, women do not have to give up sex nor are they obligated to use BC)
Bunch of liberal nonsense. Noone ever said abortions didnt happen, or that everyone was always responsible. Why bother if you have to make up such ridiculous statements, to try and deflect from the true statement someone else made. Easy questions for you Fox.....is abortion convenient today? Is it more convenient than it has ever been? This is the argument I am making, and it is accurate....thats why you tried to fluff it up with your nonsense.
There were none but it used to happen far less before we even had the pill. Abortion should be legal but rare
Your claim, bolded above, is so illogical....for one thing abortion is legal even in clinics that aren't PP. Do you REALLY think that closing PP will stop women from getting abortions? NO, it may make it harder on poor women (ANTI-CHOICERS LOVE THAT!) but they will still get them Why bother replying if you have to make up such ridiculous statements to try and deflect from the true statement you made. Sounds like you're fine with abortion as long as it's inconvenient....that's part of the "punish evil women for having sex" theme of Anti-Choicers.
The problem is those who would implement "abstinence-only" propaganda and call it "education." Studies show that comprehensive sex ed does work and young people have a right to the facts. The combination of comprehensive sex ed and availability of reliable contraception will reduce abortion rates and also the number of teen births.
Abstinence-only is the only sure fire method. The problem is few can actually control the urge to have sex and most who teach abstinence also oppose birth control. This is a deadly combination. They must be taught that if they do give in take precautions.
Abstinence only sex education, in a society that uses and exploits sex to sell everything from cars to hamburgers, does our children a disservice. People are going to have sex. Teens are going to experiment. To think differently is to deny reality. While I don't think we should encourage kids to jump into sex, the least we can do is be honest with them about what society expects from those that are sexually active- to be responsible. That requires that we actually teach them what a sexually responsible person would do, and that isn't abstinence only.
Rule #1 - Humans will have sex. Rule #2 - See rule number 1. Rule #3 - See rule number 2. It's asinine to to base assumptions about human sexuality on the concept of abstinence. Since many abortions are performed for married couples - are you advocating abstinence for married couples as well? Should a wife who has 2 children and doesn't want any more be forced to carry a fetus to term if her contraception fails one time out of two hundred? Why shouldn't sexually active men who don't want kids be forced to have vasectomies?
