severed heads of 50 Yazidi sex slaves in former Islamic State stronghold

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    Troops find severed heads of 50 Yazidi sex slaves in former Islamic State stronghold


    The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur’an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame.” (Qur’an 23:1-6)


    Jihad is only between Muslims and infidels.

    This is flexible because "Bad Muslims", or Muslims of another sect, are fair game.
    Who is a "Bad Muslim' you ask.
    simple answer,.."The other ones".


    Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars—there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.

    When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Koran 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point—there is no disagreement from any of them. […] When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her.


    Another interesting point is that a woman is to be covered except for her eyes,
    Actually according to Islamic text, "One Eye".

    But a slave girl is to be covered from the waist down.
     
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    This is who we're up against and who was just elected to Congress. A fine mixture of ignorance, cruelty and fanaticism.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...slaves-in-isis-rat-tunnels-1464993-2019-02-25
     
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    Those ISIS punk don't know what "giving head" means.
     
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    Extremely disgusting. Still 9000mi away.
     
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    So is New Zealand.
     
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    Not to me.

    As far as I know we aren't in armed conflict in NZ.
     
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    What's that got to do with anything?
    The Yazidis never really put up any fight, they were simply overrun.
     
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    It's very sad that the Islamic State is doing this, just as the NZ shooter did that - my point when I said it's still 9000mi away is that we have no business interfering militarily.
     
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    Half the reason they went after the Yazidi for their women is it is well known some of them have blue eyes. Many of them have lighter European-type hair too.

    That's probably how much of the population looked in the Middle East before the Islamic invasions (from the Arabian peninsula) beginning in the Seventh Century.

    The Yazidis are a small last remaining remnant of an ancient population, that mostly did not intermary outside their religion. The Chaldean Christians are another such group. They've both lived under mild oppression as second class citizens for centuries but were nominally tolerated (often because the rulers could extract tax out of them for being non-muslim).
     
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    yes, never mind the $700 billion bank bailouts and being held hostage by our own government.

    Speaking about slavery, did you know that it was the jewish people who financed the slave trade yet it is only the christians who who get the blame!
     
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    If these people were salamanders they'd probably get a more sympathetic response. https://www.opb.org/news/article/or...ogging-siskiyou-mountains-endangered-species/
     
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    The muslims were the first to take the slave trade out of Africa and turn it into a thing of international commerce.

    So the infrastructure was all there several hundred years before the Americas got in on it.

    The muslim world mostly didn't need African slaves, but most of them were turned into eunechs to guard harems. Someone big and strong who they didn't have to worry about leaving alone with the women. Also having a Black slave was seen as something exotic so it was a bit of a status symbol too.
    If they wanted women to fill the harems, they turned to the North.
     
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    In fact it is Muslims who are carrying out the slave trade today while Christians worked hard to stop it.

    Read and learn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_21st-century_Islamism

    And of course the Muslim treatment of women and children has become infamous.
     
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    Some of them are no doubt trying to teturn to the US or europe now that the califate has crumbled
     
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    Let's hope their identities are well publicized.
     
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    A surprising number of these Islamic fighters came from other countries in the West (like the UK, France, Germany, Russia, the U.S. and Canada).
    Maybe 40 to 60 percent of them.

    Let me repeat, in case that sounds so incredible some of you have trouble understanding what's being said here.
    These countries all have fairly sizeable muslim populations now, and a muslim from, say the U.S. or England, travelled to Northern Iraq to fight the war there on the side of the terrorists. Don't think it can be stated clearer than that.

    Some of those terrorists lopping off the heads of those Yazidi women were American, British citizens, etc.

    Now with the Islamic state defeated, where do you think all these former fighters will be headed?
     
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    actually it was the persians who made it a commerce before the muslims, taking thousands of "african" slaves to persia.
     
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    Maybe technically, but I think that was on a really small scale though. They were probably taken to king's court and treated well, kind of like exotic animals.
     
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    small scale?

    have you not heard of the babylonian captivity?
     
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    But I don't think they brought big numbers of Africans. The Persian Empire didn't really conquer that deep into Southern Egypt or Nubia.

    The Babylonian captivity was moving populations from captured areas.

    You're going off on a tangent here.
     
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    who mentioned southern egypt and nubia? im talking Lower Egypt AND Israel, which were both ruled by the mighty Black Warrior תִּרְהָקָה
     
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    Assuming any of this is factual, what has the UN done about it first to confirm the report, second, to rectify the situation.
     
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    good point. it could well be lies as no source is given. probably a blog by some anti muslim moron.
     

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