Shabiha, the Syrian Mafia

Yeah yeah I've been around the block a few times, know how this works...

...you're the only one who knows anything, everyone else is wrong, blah blah blah America is crap

All you do... the only thing you do....is crap all over America then try and sell it as knowledge.

I believe ASIO, the CIA and other intelligence agencies needs to crack down on terrorism and to do that they need to crack down on organised crime because these are not two separate issues and haven't been for a long time.

Again I don't care how they do this so you can John Perkins as much as you like... fact is organised crime is 100 times worse than the CIA, AND because even more importantly, the CIA is indirectly working in my best interest.

don't make me start googling Mexico's Los Zetas cartel hanging body parts from bridges

 

Is this latest news ?
Let's change a page to another thread and attack the Zionists

 

The state and mafia is about the same with a single possible exclusion - the law. If the law is a law then the group of people can be called 'state'. Otherwise the states are also collecting taxes (racketeering), imposing custom taxes (smuggling), executing (murdering) etc. If a dictator respects the law and makes others to respect him - it's a state. If we imagine a situation that a closed group of 2 gangs let's call them 'republicans' and 'democrats' having strong families 'the Bushs' and 'the Clintons' for instance, who manipulate the law and break their words given in negotiations with other mafias and states, I would rather call it mafia without looking at any unimportant details which draw attention of the public off the main fact.

 

You didn't even bother to read the article.....

 

Could you please remind me who exactly wrote in the thread that 'Wiki is wrong'? Was it me or someone else?

And yes.
"In March 2011, activists reported that Shabiha drove through Latakia in cars armed with machine guns firing at protesters, and then later of taking up sniper position on rooftops and killing up to 21 people."
Do you really believe it? I mean we obviously have a chance for a false flag attack in these issues. So at least two options need to be viewed. And now tell me what is the most efficient way to stop the protests and what is the most efficient way to perform a provocation? Choose two of the three.
To fight with protests.
1. Discredit the leaders of the protests, meet some of the claims of protesters avoiding giving away the power, guarding the protesters from possible provocation with an army.
2. Collect the most protesters in the street block them and eliminate everyone.
3. Order masked people in cars to shoot at crowd from machine guns and sniper rifles from the roofs. And at the same time order your activists to organize broadcasting all over the world blaming the army and police of these crimes.

To perform provocations. Choose one of the three.
1. Stay within the law, protest peacefully and wait until bad guys arrive and start to kill people not damaging the video cameras and not taking away the witnesses among your activists.
2. Make agreement with an army to bring the armors and bombers to the pace where most protesters, activists and you yourself are located and ask them to try to kill everyone.
3. Hire a gang of people (criminals or fanatics) wear masks on them and order them to shoot in a crowd from a car or perform snipers attacks from the roofs. And at the same time order your activists to organize broadcasting all over the world blaming the army and police of these crimes.

I mean it is more obvious than basic staff in Wikipedia.

 

I am not the only one who knows anything. There are plenty of us. The problem is, you are too naive when it comes to the CIA as well as not being well versed in what they do. This is because you have not really looked into it. For if you would have, we would both be agreeing with the facts of what we know about the CIA.

I bet you never knew they ran drugs into america, coke, in order to finance what congress would not finance. Not many people do know this because of our faux MSM and faux free press. Just that knowledge should affect perception of the CIA, but if you lack it, there can be no affection of perception. And this is the position you have allowed to happen, which puts you into an intellectual and information corner. A corner which has no room for the facts of the CIA and its history. It has not always served the american people, their best interests, in fact quite the contrary.

 

The Syrian Mafia goes back to the 1980s...... and has been well documented for years.

 

let me say it one more time.... I... don't.... care.... what... the ... CIA... has... to ... do... (including sell coke and assassinate people). Why? because the criminals they are dealing with is worse than ISIS.

If they are going to succeed, it's all in or out, there's no halfway about it

 

that's really funny... have you considered doing standup comedy?

 

And before 1980 it was the law and order in the territory of Syria? If they have 20 years of peace from now they will for sure manage to convict their murderers at least of avoiding the taxes, which was the case in the US less than 100 years ago with their mafia leaders.

 

Some men are hooked on novels and movies about black ops... and they want to believe people like Perkins and Seymour Hersh.

But, they will overlook the screw ups like the Sausi booze wars.

 

Syria has a long history of coups and assassinations.. The Assad family has only been in power since the 1970s so recent history about smuggling and kidnapping is all about them.

 

The CIA didn't cause the drought in Syria.

 

Margot2, In your opinion.. Assad the butcher is good for Israel ?

 

No. He's not good for Israel, but more importantly.. he's not good for Syria. I don't see a single sign of leadership qualities. .. and he certainly didn't address any of the causes of the civil war.

This conflict has been an ethnic cleansing aimed at the Sunni majority.

The Russian trolls say "Assad or Sharia law" as if there was no other option. The Syrians don't want Assad or Sharia law.

 

you must be kidding to cite tabloids no sane person would trust.

 

'activists reported' eh?.. how can you assure the shots weren't fired by the 'activists' really?

 

How many sources do you need?

The Truth About Syria: The Islamo Mafia State Triumphant > Jerry ...

www.newenglishreview.org/.../The_Truth_About_Syria:_The_Islamo_Mafia_State_T...
Rubin in this compact volume has laid bare the rise of a radical Arab Nationalist totalitarian regime inSyria. A regime led by the mafia-like al-Assad family, the late Syrian strongman Hafiz al-Assad and his 'nerdy' dictator son, Bashar, members of the heterodox minority Alawite sect. The Alawites rose to prominence in Syria ...

Syrian Regime Resembles Mafia Cartel - Spiegel Online

www.spiegel.de › English Site › World › Syria
Mar 19, 2012 - Hopes that diplomacy will force Syrian President Bashar Assad to back down seem misguided, given that his regime resembles a mafia cartel bent on defending its turf by any means. There is no turning back for Assad's clan or the rebels -- both sides know that would spell their doom.


In Syria, the mafia profits from kidnapping newborns and trafficking ...
https://www.haaretz.com › Middle East News
Dec 29, 2015 - Besides smuggling weapons and refugees, selling children and organ harvesting are two sources of income for mafia in the Syrian civil war.

 

having logic problems are you? someone tolerating competition from other groups is a dictator all the same? ever heard of such thing as common sense?

 

at least one that tells the truth, not lies; all your sources are fake news and propaganda.

 

from the very tone and language of such publications it becomes clear they are published for propaganda purpose in order to spread calumny and lies against their victims and justify the crimes of their masters.

 

Well, I am sure that a considerable part of this propaganda is base on true facts. I have no doubts that Assad family hasn't kept the power without violence and activities against the law. It looks a common thing for ME regimes. But what I am sure is that Shabiha played an important role fighting ISIS. And the last fact is a real reason for all the information attacks against it. The facts and interpretations are usually mixed. It rarely works if propaganda spreads complete nonsense. Even the anti-Russian information campaign which is based on absolutely insane ideas has limited success in western society. This is why the West tries to fight with 'Russian propaganda'. Even if they win and eliminate all the Russian information sources (which is impossible nowadays) it will get even worse.

The main problem of the west is that they lied too much and too often. The people in general see that and they are losing trust about the internal sources of information. The leadership of the West is getting more and more stupid. They can't keep such a complicated world political situation under control. The worst and most possible outcome of it is nuclear war. The other option is gradual loss of the West of their hegemony. At some point even the truth told over their propaganda media won't be trusted.