I wish I could buy this beautiful car in the US at this price, but not available. China is in the midst of an EV war. https://www.theautopian.com/byd-is-now-selling-this-compeitive-ev-for-under-10000/ ...the BYD Seagull was the most important car that debuted last year, and certainly the most important one named after an Anton Chekov play. That was back when this thing cost about $14,000 in China. Due to an ongoing price war in China, BYD has managed to drop that price below $10,000. How?
That is pretty much the only option to meet Newsom's EV mandate, and that national EV push. Anerica's auto industry needs to stand aside and let Biden's winners win. Some examples of Chinese designs: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=byd+csrs&t=ipad&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
BYD's vehicles surpass America's regulations. They recently stated that they are not entering the American market because of complexities due to the political environment (tariffs, allegations of spying through the auto electronics, etc). They don't need America to succeed. They passed Tesla in sales last year (mostly in China), and are now delivering shiploads of 5000 EVs to countries around the world. Word has it they are building 5 more of these ships.
Logic - if European cars are as safe or safer than American cars, and if a car passes the European standards, then it will be easy to pass the American standards. Not guaranteed, but highly likely. European Cars Are Safer Than U.S. Cars? 9 Reasons (Explained) https://motorandwheels.com/european-cars-are-safer-than-u-s-cars/ BYD EV Enters Europe With A 5-Star Euro NCAP Safety Score https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...-star-euro-ncap-safety-score/?sh=22ee5f193aa2
Oh, I'm sure that's why they've never entered the US market before. Because Europe has tighter standards. That US companies always meet. Yep. Gotta be it.
It could be likely they're not making any profit. The market for EVs in China is oversaturated at the moment. And in Asia it's common for companies to have the idea of trying to grab percentage market share, regardless of the profits. another thread ... Bad news for Chinese electric vehicle manufacturers
Just think of all that toxic metal and chemicals in those batteries. Think of the environmental impact from mining all of it. Now think about what happens to those batteries when they're scrapped.
Think about what happens to you if the battery runs down in the wrong neighborhood. You might laugh, but I remember what I-95 used to look like when I drove through the New York City part of it. Cars were lined up all along the road that had been stolen and abandoned. The guy who sold cinder blocks in the area must have doing a rushing business because everyone of them had cinder blocks instead of tires. Of course the only part that is worth anything on an electric car is the battery. Once that wears out, you throw the car away. Heaven help you if you get caught in a flood and saltwater gets to the battery. The fire department as a devil of time putting out the blaze.
I have heard that all they can do is drag it out in the middle of the street and let it burn. One should always travel well armed.
If you violent shoot criminals in New York City, DA Alvin Bragg will prosecute you, not them. The best thing to do is take the Tapen-Zee Bridge and avoid the NYC hell hole completely. I lived here in ‘70s, but I am never going back.
For sure. There's a guy on YouTube called "the Electric Viking" who posts EV videos on a daily basis. He seems to really stay on top of things. He mentioned that there are 91 companies in China currently manufacturing electric cars, and that BYD is lowering prices to drive many of them out of business.
That same car (BYD Seagull) goes for $21K in Mexico. Pretty hot off the press - March 1, 2024. https://www.wardsauto.com/vehicles/byd-seagull-lands-mexico-dolphin-mini BYD Mexico launches its long-awaited Seagull 5-door compact BEV hatch in Mexico under the Dolphin Mini badge that the Chinese company has used for its export models. The climactic moment of the launch is the price point: MXN$358,800 ($21,000) for the base model that offers 190 miles (305 km) of range, and MXN$398,800 ($23,000) for the longer-range Dolphin Mini Plus, which is calculated at 252 miles (405 km). Both Mini models use BYD’s latest 3.0 platform and the automaker’s proprietary Blade lithium-iron-phosphate battery.
All manufacturing processes have ecological overhead. ICE engines have that overhead throughout their life, with the refining of petroleum, which is rife with toxic wastes. EVs can run on renewables. I have a separate thread devoted to the recycling of EV batteries. I would refer you to that.
They don't run on hopes and dreams. That electricity comes from somewhere. Even without a combustion engine they're going to take plenty of petroleum products their entire service life
Realistically, they would have to build a plant in the US to be able to make a dent in the American market and that would force the prices up significantly and then they would have to find dealerships willing to carry them due to the weird way car dealerships have boxed out direct to consumer sales.
They are heavy as ****.....they go through tires annually I've heard. BUT, it did submarine through that like it was nothing!
EVs seem like they're heavy, but not as much as some might think, especially when compared to large ICE SUVs and pickups which usually weigh 6000-8000 pounds. A Tesla Cybertruck weighs in at 6700 pounds. A Tesla Model 3 weighs in at about 3800 pounds. An ICE Toyota Camry weighs between 3086 and 3680 pounds, plus add 100 pounds for a full tank of gas.
