Shipment of 20K FAKE U.S. DRIVERS LICENSES From China Confiscated

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    he certainly bombed them
     
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    Overall Obama had more air strikes on Syria and that amounted to more damage to Syrian forces. Obama did get a deal to remove a high volume of chemical weapons out and international observers noted that chemical weapons were removed. Chlorine was not removed since it is used for water treatment and other industrial uses.

    Trump's actions had flash and bang but there was no confirmed destruction of chemical weapons. Empty flash and bang is Hollywood.

    Overall neither Obama nor the Trump were/are effective in Syria.
     
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    obama did not enforce the redline he invited putin in that moved some stuff around but ultimately assad was able to again use wmds...trump enforced it and he hasn’t used them again.

    trump inherited the war and also russia’s already intervention which tied his hands much more. He also campaigned on getting untangled from obama’s endless wars
     
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    I was not a proponent of Obama trusting the Russians any more than I am of Trump believing Putin. The mistake Obama made was to not include chlorine in the banned chemical weapons. Assad did use chlorine in attacks after 2016. What is not clear is if the sarin gas used by Assad was newly acquired or part of the stash missed by the "deal".

    Bottom line is that neither Obama , Trump , or anyone should ever trust a Russian or Russia.
     
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