No, only those mutilations that remove or damage the clitoris prevent women from enjoying sex. Same as if you cut off glans penis. However those lesser types of FGM where clitoris is not touched are exactly the same as male circumcision, and they are done for hygienic reasons too, not to prevent sexual enjoyment.
Female circumcision IS removal of the clitoris. You need to do some more research. Sometimes, they even sew up the vagina completely. http://www.desertflowerfoundation.org/en/what-is-fgm/
Cutting just the labia is not considered "female circumcision." That is a labectomy and can be done for comfort reasons. Apparently, some women have giant labia that get twisted up in their panties and cause them pain and discomfort, so they have a labectomy. Female "circumcision" is defined as removing or mutilating the clitoris so that the women can't get pleasure.
Yeah and looking at it from a scientific perspective, if foreskins were so bad, why haven't we evolved them out of existence? Like if we truly came from apes, and foreskins were so bad, why do apes still have them, and why do we.
"Religion" doesn't do anything. Female circumcision is mainly practiced in African countries by both Muslims and Christians. It is not an Islamic tenant.
No it isn't. Only our politically correct society would like you to think that. It is a FACT that the Muslim religion is oppressive to women and is a patriarchal belief system. Not that Christianity isn't, but the Christians have managed to moderate themselves a LOT more.
thats not at all how evolution works - - - Updated - - - WRONG there are many levels of female genital mutilation - - - Updated - - - why did God give men an appendix?
Type Ia and type IIa do not touch the clitoris. Read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#WHO_Types_I.E2.80.93III It is true that those are not the most common types, tough.
Actually it's wickedness in the name of religion that causes so much suffering. There be the Godlessness.
It's not that they are bad. It's that some people choose them for appearances and for health benefit reasons. That is all. It's not that big of a deal like the OP is trying to make it into. It doesn't make men lose sensation in their penis, or not enough for it to be noticeable from everything I've read, and the health benefits outweigh the risks according to numerous reliable medical sources that are not members of the "ban circumcision club." - - - Updated - - - I'm not buying it. Regardless of anything you say, I've read enough to know about how Islam looks at females. Not to mention, it's on demonstration every day for everyone to see. Islamic men are insecure. THAT is why they do the things they do. That is why women have to wear burqas in some Muslim communities, and other such things. - - - Updated - - - Nope, you are wrong. - - - Updated - - - Exactly, and even then . . . from you link. And also, you are ignoring the fact that there are NO medical benefits from FGM. NONE. Type I is subdivided into Ia, the removal of the clitoral hood (rarely, if ever performed alone),[38] and the more common Ib (clitoridectomy), the complete or partial removal of the clitoral glans and clitoral hood.[39] (When discussing FGM, the WHO uses the word clitoris to refer to the clitoral glans, the external part of the clitoris.)[40] Susan Izett and Nahid Toubia write: "[T]he clitoris is held between the thumb and index finger, pulled out and amputated with one stroke of a sharp object."[41] Type II (excision) is the complete or partial removal of the inner labia, with or without removal of the clitoral glans and outer labia. (Excision in French usually means any form of FGM.) Type II is subdivided into Type IIa, removal of the inner labia; IIb, removal of the clitoral glans and inner labia; and IIc, removal of the clitoral glans, inner and outer labia.[42]
and yet for some strange reason, you are against requiring that a local anesthetic be used when circumcizing a baby. why?
So, if there are absolutely no benefits and the risks outweigh the benefits in FGM, then what reason do you think such a procedure would be performed? - - - Updated - - - I'm not against that all. Where did I say that?
why don't we also cut off babies' earlobes? they serve no purpose, might as well cut that (*)(*)(*)(*) off
There are no health benefits to doing that. It's simple really, male circumcision has some health benefits. FGM does not. Cutting off earlobes does not.
what would u say to Jews or Muslims who said that requiring anesthesia for a babies circumcision violated their religious freedom?
Just to be clear. I'm a medical transcriptionist and have been one for almost 12 years. I have not once typed a report where there was a problem with a circumcision. Not once, and I've typed many thousands of medical reports. I have, however, typed reports about men who have problems with an uncircumcised penis, such as . . . http://lmgtfy.com/?q=problems+with+uncircumcised+penis - - - Updated - - - I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I don't have to deal with such things. I have no idea how much pain a baby might feel during a circumcision. However, most doctors are not cruel and do not want to torture babies, so I would trust their opinions on such things before I would trust yours. No offense.
What the average American has to say about Islam is inconsequential. Now show your evidence that Islam condones FGM or gtf ().
No, it is not. I've done plenty of reading on it. Go educate yourself. This is a way to oppress women by Islam, just like all the other horrible things they do to women and how they treat women. End of story. Any person that defends them is on my poop list, and that includes you.
Yes, I'm sure you've read plenty of blogs. Now provide the evidence or gtf(). Calling me "poop" doesn't help your case whatsoever.
There is plenty about it on google. Go google. I don't have anything to prove. I know what I know. People like you are useless to argue with.
You know, I've changed my mind. I'm going to post this just to see what your response is. I'm pretty sure I already know though. Lol. Basically, people like you care more about PC than women. This, I already know. This is just one link among many others. Although the PC community would like to keep the wraps on it and pretend it isn't an Islam problem, just like they do with so many other things . . . because they are disingenuous and disgusting people. http://www.meforum.org/1629/is-female-genital-mutilation-an-islamic-problem Among social activists and feminists, combating female genital mutilation (FGM) is an important policy goal. Sometimes called female circumcision or female genital cutting, FGM is the cutting of the clitoris of girls in order to curb their sexual desire and preserve their sexual honor before marriage. The practice, prevalent in some majority Muslim countries, has a tremendous cost: many girls bleed to death or die of infection. Most are traumatized. Those who survive can suffer adverse health effects during marriage and pregnancy. New information from Iraqi Kurdistan raises the possibility that the problem is more prevalent in the Middle East than previously believed and that FGM is far more tied to religion than many Western academics and activists admit. Many Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion[1] but rather in culture. "When one considers that the practice does not prevail and is much condemned in countries like Saudi Arabia, the center of the Islamic world, it becomes clear that the notion that it is an Islamic practice is a false one," Haseena Lockhat, a child clinical psychologist at North Warwickshire Primary Care Trust, wrote.[2] True, FGM occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa. And in Arab states such as Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation,[3] both Christian Copts and Muslims are complicit. But at the village level, those who commit the practice believe it to be religiously mandated. Religion is not only theology but also practice. And the practice is widespread throughout the Middle East. Many diplomats, international organization workers, and Arabists argue that the problem is localized to North Africa or sub-Saharan Africa,[4] but they are wrong. The problem is pervasive throughout the Levant, the Fertile Crescent, and the Arabian Peninsula, and among many immigrants to the West from these countries. Silence on the issue is less reflective of the absence of the problem than insufficient freedom for feminists and independent civil society to raise the issue.
Memforum? No wonder you are so ignorant. Is it so difficult for you to provide a single verse or hadith that condones FGM? Come to think of it, I doubt you even know what a hadith is...
Yup, just what I thought. Of course it's Islam. The worst "religion" the world has ever had the misfortune to be exposed to, with pedophilia running rampant and mutilation and killing of women. I DESPISE this cult. It is a cult from the Dark Ages. Hopefully some day, it will cease to exist. It is based on such ignorance.
