I didn't just blurt out a declaration that I'm not gay. You decided to be juvenile (is that a choice?) and said you would come to me if you had question about the homosexual lifestyle. I do stand with people who are homosexual or heterosexual or asexual and everything in between. Other people's sex life isn't any of my business. I'm still not sure why it's any of yours. See above. You made a childish comment about my sexuality. I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. I'm going to assume that you are aware people that obsess about non-heterosexual relationships under the guise of being "good Christians" all use the same arguments and insults, right? Since you were so thoughtful to recommend a path for me, I'll return the favor. Maybe you could form a committee and revamp some of the condescending, hateful, judgmental junk you all use to justify being so horrible to other human beings. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-be-transgender.587728/page-4#post-1072619441 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-be-transgender.587728/page-4#post-1072619033
Then you are a bisexual. That is likely why you believe it is so easy for everyone to make a choice. It could also be why you find it so repulsive. I do not even imagine it. I have attempted to change my orientation times and always failed. I hope you don’t take take this with any offense but there are programs and materials that can help you processes if it causes you issues with not being able to accept yourself. It can be a dark and dangerous place. If you would like some resources I would be happy to provide you some — pm me.
Dair, I think I can help here. From what I've been able to glean from these type of arguments, apparently some people have television remotes that don't have a "power" button or channel changer? Others don't seem to have Smartphones or computers that allow them to close websites they don't want to see. Of course, you can clearly see the emotional and psychological strain of being bombarded with electronic devices that just display whatever they want to display with no regard to the sensitivities of any eyeballs in close proximity. Please note, at this time, I don't have an explanation for why anyone living in 2022 doesn't have some kind of electrical outlet or cords that can be detached from them or a circuit breaker somewhere in their vicinity.
Buddy, you could set your mind to it and have relations with a goat. There are programs that could help you. You were not born that way.
This thread is about "should we discourage homosexuality." It is an invitation for discussion. You are the only one who has brought up "Christian". I could be Muslim or even atheist for all of your concern and have the same viewpoint. Why this obsession with attacking "Christians"? I think my point has been made and no further discussion is warranted. I would suggest perhaps you take your frustrations against Christians and start a new thread.
Because Muslims in America are actually more supportive than evangelicals. Just statistically, you are an older white Christian (protestant / evangelical) based on your views. They are the only group that really pushed the idea that their chosen religious be mandated into law.
To date a woman rather than trick someone into believing she was straight. So you think she should be dishonest and lie to preserve your feelings?
No I think she is mentally compromised. I'm going to add something for you to think about. If it doesn't resonate.....just forget I responded.
You're operating from the assumption that I believe this is evil I do not. I wanted those people out there it's okay with you thinking about I just disagree.
I acknowledged that it probably would not "resonate" but it does give everyone a chance to see where they are. I've watched the incremental change and to a degree I feel the persecution that comes at the end. I expect it and that's fine.
No one is trying to criminalize calling gay people evil — know what has been previously criminalized for mocking it? Religion. You might have the shoe on the wrong foot
I have faith....not religion so much. I have never ever called gay people evil. I do believe the behavior does not elevate the human condition. Those of the secular, non-spiritual mindset seem to have that realization blocked from their knowledge. It's to be expected. I have explained why I would discourage that behavior. I don't persecute anybody and persecution of the past was wrong. Then again, I don't identify people due to their behavior. We can all find the ability to rise above our weaknesses. I do sense the growing persecution of those who do not view the "woke" way of life. I expect it will grow. It became apparent when government shut down Church gatherings due to COVID while liquor establishments continued operations. (I have nothing against Liquor establishments) It's just the double standard. Here again is this disparity in action....
You have never called gay people evil then what was the intention of your image? You have compared homosexuality to pedophilia and beastiality and then said that you could make yourself engage in two of three so of course you see it as evil unless you are now saying child rape isn’t evil? Which it absolutely is.
I don't operate under the assumption that it's evil. So applied to this subject It can't resonate because I don't share the ideology. I'm glad to live in this time because nobody is being persecuted. If you think you are you should make allies with trans activists they think the existence of sexes persecutes them much like you.
I have made it clear it is the behavior that is evil. It is the behavior you accept. It is the beginning of a long slippery slope where we aren't even to define gender anymore. It culminates into a long slippery slope where we take kindergartners to third grade and spend time teaching them about their quest to find their "true gender" while basic math and science skills go down the toilet. We even see Walt Disney's empire catering to the woke so as to confuse gender. The whole premise starts with the precept that boys can be girls and girls can be boys. It is evil in it's entirety because it denies the purpose for which we were created. All I have done in this thread was express my conviction that the behavior should be discouraged.
So Christians are not evil, it is just their unnatural beliefs and religious worship that makes it evil. Do you hear what you are saying? How do you know it is evil? Even the Bible doesn't state this as the few passages that have recently been twisted were referring to pedophilia and incest in the original texts. How do you believe your God will react to you using blatantly false information to condemn an entire group of people?
Again, you turn your attacks on Christians yet you maintain you know what is in the Bible. You do not really seek that information except to attack those of faith. Let's keep it very simple for you.....in the Beginning it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. There is so much more depth than that, but I seem to believe you've never had an interest in pursuing that. I have not preached here, I have not shared my faith in this thread yet you know where to attack! It is amazing proof that spiritual warfare DOES exist and you are a prime example! However, I will wager there are even atheists, agnostics, and people outside of the family of Faith that tend to agree with me.
I am not attacking anyone by pointing out facts. Odd that you believe you are not attacking gay people but I am attacking Christians with the exact same argument you are failing to make. Does your chosen religious book say anything about hypocrisy? You don’t have to say you are using faith based arguments in this thread because you have done so in prior ones. The overwhelming majority of people against gay rights use such arguments. Prove God exists and that he made only Adam and Eve and then watched as they incested one another and their children. That is the only way your argument holds any water.
The entire point of making it illegal to say gay as in "don't say gay" is causing gay people to be persecuted when they say what they are.
This is not the topic of the thread. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I have not used my faith here to clarify my position. It took me years of searching to arrive at my current level of faith and I am not wasting it on a very surface discussion. It most certainly does, and you and I are not immune from hypocrisy. If you sincerely want to attack Christianity, then attack the misgivings my "Holy Book " reveals. All Christians are not immune from failure but the idea is, they detest their failures and learn from them. They do not "bathe" in their failures and glorify them. They are forgiven! I never attack what you call "gay people". In fact, I believe there is no such thing. I believe there are people created in the image of God that fall prey to perverse behaviors in rebellion to their Creator. Everyone has potential to improve. That is why I got into this discussion. Perverse behavior should be "discouraged"......didn't say outlawed. That is what attracted to me in this thread. Laws can attempt to make the flesh behave. (circumcision) but my "religious book" as you call it, tells me God wants a "circumcised heart". If that is too deep for you, I suggest you search the scriptures.
You have bought into the "woke lie". Read the law that Desantis has put forth in FLA. There is absolutely no mention of the word "gay". The law is only to eliminate sexual indoctrination for kindergartners through 3rd grade. That's all sexual oriented doctrine and only through those primary grades. What's shocking to me is that children might be fair game after that! Why is sex even discused in school? That is why we have parents. Is this the undoing of America? We are 23rd down the list in academics yet it seems the concern of the woke to teach our kids to "disgender" and learn about all possible options. Funny.....they pretend we want to censor the word "gay" while they seek to censor all these words like male, female, boy ,girl, prince, princess etc.
You haven’t? You just said the ultimate childish “Adam and Eve” not Adam and Steve. You also brought up the concept of evil when applying to to gay people. Unless you can show substantive harm they are causing to others then evil is a religious term. Lets not go down the genital mutation discussion. I don’t have issues with religious belief until it starts being weaponized against others.
