Should Muslims convert or?

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Should Muslims convert to other belief systems?

  1. Yes, to Christianity

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Yes, to Buddism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Yes, to Hinduism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Yes, to Judaism

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. Yes, to Confucianism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Yes, other religion

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  7. Yes, to science / atheism

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  8. Anything but Islam!

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  9. No, they are fine

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%
  10. No, you just can't force them out of Islam

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  11. No, it is you that should convert to Islam, infidel!!

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  12. Other

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Its sad that so many westerners know so little about Arabs, Muslims, Islam and the Arab world.. They love to think the worst.
     
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    Other..... I am a follower of Christ. A believer in true Christianity. I share my faith and I do it unashamedly. I believe it is the power of Salvation.
    Having said that, who am I to tell anyone how they should believe? I do believe Islam is a destructive faith and I just wish those involved would turn away.
     
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    What Muslim country do you live in?
     
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    What are you talking about? <Rule 3>
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it it mostly fear of the other or the unknown.
     
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    How would listing a book that claims 93% of wars are not religious based mean we know little about Arabs, Muslims, Islam and the Arab world. I'm interested to see what answer you're going to come with !!!!!
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The book makes no such claims, that is false.
     
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    Most wars are over land or resources, but they are fought by religious people. The blathering crap I read on here about Islam and Muslims tells me that most people don't have a clue.
     
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    I have no need to buy a copy, just show anywhere in that book it makes the claim you stated it made, you made the claim now provide the proof. Do not like someone challenging your false claims, tough, do the research.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No the claim is made by Vox Day.
     
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    [/QUOTE]I’m a seminary student seeking ordination in the Presbyterian Church (USA).

    .[/QUOTE]

    Baloney.
    If you were that involved with the Presbyterian church you would know the difference between the OT and NT.
    I spent 20 years in the Presbyterian church, Baptized, confirmed, and you would know the difference.

    Aren't you the one who claimed to be a Christian bishop.
     
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    All of the wars in the Bible were religious-based.
     
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    Actually the Muslims were in about 65 wars that were religious motivated.
    I have a book about them …"Jihad", by Paul Fragosi.
    While there were thousands of conflicts where religion was the cause, they were not wars, they were murderous raids.

    Muhammed, for example is documented in 78 raids on Unarmed caravans and settlements.
    None of these are wars,
    Muhammed was never in a war.
     
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    I’m a seminary student seeking ordination in the Presbyterian Church (USA).

    .[/QUOTE]

    Baloney.
    If you were that involved with the Presbyterian church you would know the difference between the OT and NT.
    I spent 20 years in the Presbyterian church, Baptized, confirmed, and you would know the difference.

    Aren't you the one who claimed to be a Christian bishop.[/QUOTE]
    So funny not only do you still continue to not understand how the Bible consists of both the Old Testament and the New you struggle now to read. I have made no claim, the article I linked to de bunking another theists rubbish was

    About David M Schell
    I am a doubter and a believer. I have a Master's in Divinity from Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, but because faith grows and changes, I don't necessarily stand by everything I've ever written, so if you see something troubling further back, please ask!

    It is not often you are right nut you are wrong again!
     
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    I say "No, you just can't force them out of Islam"

    any more then you could force a Christians out of Christianity

    just not gonna happen

    maybe someday people will stop believing in the Abrahamic God, but not in our lifetimes
     
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    I’m a seminary student seeking ordination in the Presbyterian Church (USA).

    .[/QUOTE]


    Baloney.
    If you were that involved with the Presbyterian church you would know the difference between the OT and NT.
    I spent 20 years in the Presbyterian church, Baptized, confirmed, and you would know the difference.

    Aren't you the one who claimed to be a Christian bishop.[/QUOTE]

    Good God can't you read WHO is speaking and saying "I am a seminary student"?
     
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    Paul Fragosi claimed Muslims want to spread Islam all over the world. So did Christians.. Consider the New World and Conquistadors, the priests and missionaries to California, Hawaii, China, Africa and Papua New Guinea.
     
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    Oh dear.
     
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    I think I'll stick to the encyclopedia rather than your 'opinion'. I wish my knowledge to remain as accurate as possible.
     
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    Have you forgotten the priests and Missionaries to the New World, Africa, Hawaii, China and Papua New Guinea? Have you forgotten the conquistadors? What do you think Christians were doing?
     
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    Not the encyclopedia but the counting of Vox Day, again please show where the Encyclopedia makes the claim you state.

    Again as the Christian author of this rebuttal to your claim stated.

    Why am I sharing this if it makes religion look bad?

    Because I don’t think it does. First, as a person invested in a particular religion with a particular truth claim, I think the truth matters. It does Christianity no favors to claim to be in possession of truth while dealing in lies. Lies are not appropriate in support of truth.
    https://davidmschell.com/religious-wars-only-123-of-1763/
     
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    I believe the encyclopedia confirms what I said about Islamic wars.
    About 65.
     
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    And how is that opinion.
    I try not to use my opinion, and when I do, I post it as opinion.
     
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    The encyclopedia does make that claim, not that I agree with it.
    It does make it.
    If you expect someone to scan that page, for you.
    I think you have a long wait.
     
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