Should prison inmates be allowed to vote?

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    If your answer is no, I'd like to ask why not? I believe they should be allowed to vote. Here is why:
    1) It will give them a feeling of connection to the outside world.
    2) It will help bring about needed prison reform i.e. stop the practice of using prison labor by some of these big corporations.
    3) It will force politicians to think about inmates as voters, not just some riff raff that they can forget about.

    What do you folks think?
     
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    I think that it could be appropriate. Maybe with consideration for the reason they’re in there.
     
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    One of the penalties involving conviction of a felony is the loss of voting rights. That is part of the debt owed to society. That shouldn't change.

    If one is in jail as part of a conviction for a misdemeanor, I don't see why they should not be allowed to vote.
     
  4. Moriah

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    Yes. I should have added that maybe people on death row should be excluded.
     
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  5. Moriah

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    Why shouldn't it change? Aren't they paying their debt to society by being locked up?
     
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    Granny don't think it's such a hot idea...

    ... dey might vote demselves outta jail...

    ... an' into office...

    ... den where would we be?
     
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    I think Moriah is on to something here. It could give inmates a feeling of having some kind of stake in what is happening in society and could lead to decreased incidence of revolving door incarceration.
     
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  8. Moriah

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    We wouldn't be any worse off than we are now in my humble opinion.o_O
     
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    I don't believe they should have any rights and in addition to that I don't think they should be a financial liability to the taxpaying citizens. I feel they should be required to provide the necessary labor to cover the cost of their imprisonment. This is my opinion. I realize yours is probably different.
     
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    Just like I can vote my way into being a millionaire?
    If society decides that they should be in prison then it should be society’s responsibility to pay for it. Furthermore you can’t treat someone like an animal for a decade then be surprised they don’t know how to act in society when they get out. Treat them like humans with rights and responsibilities and you might be surprised at what comes out.
     
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    I've got no problem with treating someone with dignity and respect. However, you and I had to work to obtain shelter, clothing and food. I don't see why convicts should be rewarded by you and me paying their way. Again, that's my personal thought. I realize yours is different.
     
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    So you believe a person should give up all the rights of citizenship while in jail or prison? Isn't the fact that they are locked up enough? Why must we destroy their humanity?
     
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    Thank you! I don't know why our criminal justice system can't figure this out.
     
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    I am thinking about writing to Gov. Brown and asking him about this issue. It would probably have to be put on the ballot after collecting a lot of signatures huh? Here in California I think it might pass.:xd:
     
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    Same place we've always been..
     
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    The way I view it is that they knew when they committed a felony, that part of that debt to society was the loss of their voting rights. Changing that after the fact means part of that debt has been removed. I don't see why that should be done.
     
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    I think when it comes to committing felonies, and being convicted of doing so, they have proved they aren't interested in having a stake in what is going on in society. They made their decision, and they have to live with it.

    I don't think levels of recidivism has anything to do with not being able to vote.
     
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    OK. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
     
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    Heh! That's very likely!
     
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    No. However, after they have served their sentence then yes.
     

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