Should white people be discriminated?

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Should white people be discriminated?

  1. Yes, because they did many bad things to non-whites

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  2. Yes, because I hate them

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  3. Yes, for whatever reason

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  4. Don't know

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  5. No, because they have done nothing wrong

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  6. No, because I love them

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  7. No, for whatever reason

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  8. Other

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  1. Diamond

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    "All Governments" or just Governments founded on the concept of sovereignty? Conveniently sovereignty was a concept born in Europe, not Africa, not Asia, not the Americas. But that has not stopped it's spread by Europeans inalienable right to pursue conquests. Venturing into the tropics for something more than trade only became popular after fascism dominated the White economic system, leaving little room for the little-people.

    It was the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution that overlooked the guest worker loophole. It was only intended to put to bed the question of what ex-slaves were in the US after the 13th Amendment was established, but it failed to be limited in scope as most Amendments are. It had nothing to do with the interests of White supremacist, in fact White Nationalist hated the idea more than anyone. The US was born on the idea of equal-capitalism (mostly based on the idea of exploiting non-citizens), taking non-citizens out of the equation forces capitalism to expand back into the exact fascist ideologies that the original European colonists fled Europe for opportunity to capitalize from in the fist place.

    The KKK was founded by conservative Democrats (Dixiecrats) from the the bible-belt that depended on slave-economics. They never "went" anywhere, just like disgruntled Hillary supporters in a post Trump world they made it their mission to deny reality.

    Muslims on the other-hand in the US are spit. They remember being falsely blamed for actions of White supremacists (like Timothy McVeigh) never to receive an apology, and they also remember retaliation targeting of the US Muslim communities after 9/11. There is currently a huge demand by non-Muslims that Muslims condemn other Muslims that did things they had no part it and very little recognition that they took no part in those actions or other actions of which they had previously been held liable for without justification. I do not recall any example of Catholics being told that they must condemn the actions of countless Catholic pedophile priests. Muslims in the US hold a very small footprint and live in an openly anti-Islamic nation. To suggest that Muslims in the US should be compassionate and tolerant (on a human-level) to people that are not compassionate and tolerant of them is not an easy sell.

    First off, there is more Chinese in China than there is of any other race anywhere else on Earth (and they're paying for it right now with 13 million ghost because of the new one-child per household initiative). More whites get killed "in war" because Whites go to war more than any other race.


    This point here I would like you to expand on because it's not exactly clear here what you are saying. Under the Fourth Geneva Convention there was something called "displaced persons". Those people might cross borders without legal papers, but they do have rights via international law that common illegals don't.
     
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    You don't know much about the world if you imagine Whites were somehow lazy. The old saying was that only mad dogs and Englishmen work in the noonday sun.

    That vast majority of pioneers and colonists before the 1900's worked very hard without the benefit of slaves or modern machinery. Have you ever done any hard work?

    If you want to return North, South and Central America to the Natives, then you must also want Blacks to go back to Africa. As you say: America "was never meant for them."

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    If you took a random sample of Blacks in America and asked them if they wished their ancestors had been left in Africa, with all of the inherent implications and attachments, virtually all of them would tell you no.
     
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    You do understand the difference between longitude and latitude don't you?
     
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    Look at your earlier post where you wanted people to go back where they came from. You didn't say just Whites should go back to Europe.

    And you never replied that you've done any hard work in your life... a subject I'm sure you have no personal familiarity with.
     
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    I said isolationist should go back to what's home for them if integration is too difficult. What's home is defined horizontally.
     
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    You do love to argue - even though most of what you say is incorrect. If I were to respond to your points, the response would be longer than most people would read.

    Most of your responses are so much pious cant so as to be devoid of any truthful meaning. Let's cut to the chase: White people are the scourge of all mankind.

    Dude, I get sick and tired of hearing this incessant B.S. that white people want to turn all the non-whites into slaves and profit off them. Really I do. Granted, there is corporate greed AND our society has become about money, not about loyalty to the employee. But get real.

    The people who sound like you, in general, neglect their education (as it appears you did) and they develop a really warped view of reality. For example, I offer gigs on occasion. ANYBODY can apply for the job. But, you have the guys I call Bubba. Bubba drives around in his truck and tries to call himself a "contractor" wanting to be paid on par with the big box guy that has a brick and mortar building, insurance, is bonded and has overhead (like those tv and radio ads.)

    So, you have three choices: Big box guys, Bubba, or whatever other guy shows up. Well the other guy is the non-white guy charging half of the Big box guys and not the 10 percent off with Bubba. So, your position is if I went with "other" I'm a slaver. Some jobs simply don't require a lot of education and experience (which is why third worlders do them.) It's a waste of the Big box boy's time to do a pissant job that don't take a half a day. And, many people are on fixed incomes or low incomes, so they cannot afford the big bucks. Guys like you think that $25 an hour is dishonest money. Yet most of those on that side of the fence will work for corporate America for $8 an hour AND **** while telling me that the low income / fixed income people are slavers for paying what they can afford instead of paying surgeon wages for a freaking handyman.

    There are good jobs out there and always have been. Non-whites, even when they could not become citizens, came here to take advantage of those opportunities. NOBODY held a gun to their head. The opportunity is there. Whites today don't want to take advantage of the opportunities. It's too easy to blame someone else and scapegoat other people. But, by no means is the white race the economic force in this country. Foreigners now control $32.5 trillion dollars worth of America's assets. Most of that is owned by the Japanese and Chinese.

    But I digress. What you asked me didn't make a lot of sense, but this is my view:

    EVERY person standing on U.S. soil, regardless of race, religion, immigration status, color, creed, or anything else has unalienable Rights (as differentiated from inalienable rights - there IS a big legal difference.) Not every person can become a citizen, nor should they become a citizen. Still, everybody has unalienable Rights while citizens enjoy the additional privileges and immunities. Yep, most whites do not understand that - and they cannot articulate why. That is what I have against them. They attack the founding fathers AND the foundational principles upon which this country was founded. Even if it means the end of their own race, they are more about pushing an agenda that ends in their demise... Why? The bulk of them have been dumbed down so that to call them an idiot is a compliment to them or an insult to actual idiots. You don't understand our past so it's doubtful you can see where this country is headed. Research the recent history of Venezuela.
     
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    Man you speak for yourself and I pity you for it.
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    Utter foolishness for the guilty to speak out like that. Jonsa knows full well I contribute to society, do extracurricular work and yet he makes an idiotic allegation like that for the most obvious reason.

    I don't pity him. I wish he'd get off his dead a** and do a little work to make a difference.
     
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    You are white and you state you are all but worthless and you call me foolish and guilty?

    don't think you'd much like a comparison of your "contributions" and results from a "little work" with mine. IIRC, I am a looooong way ahead of you.
     
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    AND you have no reading skills to boot. Son, please, quit trolling me. Mental midgetry like that childish post only amuses me and solidifies what I've already said.

    There is not a snowball's chance in HELL that you can match what I - and my family have done over the last four decades. In that regard, I have NO superiors and damn few equals. That is not boasting; that's a fact.
     
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    Actually, guys like me think that any wage under $50/hour is slave wages and that the only reason your Big box guys say that is unreasonably and affordable is because the biggest overhead that they have is themselves (thinking that they have to earn 300 times more than their employees). Any job worth getting done is worth paying for, the level of education really has nothing more to do with it other than the amount of sky-rocketing tuition rates students get buried under because greedy fascists lobbied to Congress to remove ceilings (and that's why here in the US our college grad turnouts and education level is on par with third-world nations but our costs of education surpass any other nation on Earth). It's also why we don't have enough Doctors per capita or hospital beds compared to other nations, we do have nice medical facilities but not enough hands on deck to give proper attention to those that require medical assistance at reasonable costs. On top of that big pharma went the same way as college tuition rates and insurance companies don't want to pay the bill (but then again insurance companies have always wanted to skip out on the check). Insurance companies stock-pile that rainy-day fund not for the customers rainy-day but for their own, to pay for lawyers that weasel out of paying-up when the bill arrives (just like what happened to Social Security funds that bankers use other people's money to gamble on Wall Street to line their own pockets and the government steals from as if it's somehow another source of tax-revenue to spend as they chose). Yet, with all these claims of "not enough money to go around for everyone" meme that fascist spout, we still some how have plenty of prison-bed space (at $30,000+ a year), more than any other nation on Earth, to house 25% of the global prison population. And somehow "socialism is a bad thing"? Heaven forbid that taxpayers get something back from the government from hard-earned money that they paid in, as year-by-year goes bye with the ever shrinking dollar that causes even yearly pay increases to actually work out to be a yearly pay-cut.

    The government says that we have to cut back on Medicaid to invest more in the DoD, but 80% of DoD spending goes to maintaining our nuclear weapons program every year that we vow to never use. Obama just gave that nuclear weapons program a trillion dollar face-lift (not a peep on MSM) and then we have all that spending in foreign aid going out the door every year, jobs being outsourced, workers being in-sourced, and South America profiting off every bit of it from the illegal drug-trade, guest-worker programs, to the arms deals (and again, not a peep about it from MSM). This is how fascist nations work (on the shoulders of the little-people), fascist don't pay taxes (they hide their money in tax havens), they don't join the military to fight for the nation (they run for office). We claim to be the greatest democracy on Earth (with the lowest voter turnout) and ally with authoritarian dictatorships (most of which we set up as puppet governments and then complain about other nation interfering in our elections). But most US citizens are blissfully-ignorant of this because the bought-and-paid-for MSM would rather deflect the conversation to talk about meaningless things like; is it okay to be gay, isn't it time we had a female president, all terrorist are also only Muslims, which race is superior, and the importance of peaceful protests (none of those things disrupt the interests of fascist).

    So today everyone is walking around with an iPhone, watching YouTube videos, texting all of their contacts, and snapping of photos to post on instagram or facebook via the internet. All the public pay phones disappeared and no body seems to see what was happening right before our eyes until a guy named Snowden had to leave Hawaii to go to China and the then the Russia to finally expose it. Immunities are getting handed out like peanuts at the ballpark (in our nation of laws), constantly watering down the very Constitution that we so gleefully pride ourselves on. So when you want to talk about how much someone knows what they're talking about, you might want to first consider how much of what they think they know is the real or just the lie that they were sold in school.
     
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    Only one problem there sport. Educated people know how to break their sentences down into paragraphs. Sooo... If Walmart paid their workers $50 an hour, prices would rise accordingly. Any blue collar worker can live comfortably on $25 an hour.... expecting people on low incomes and fixed incomes to pay more per hour is unrealistic and nobody with an IQ greater than their shoe size would argue differently.
     
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    If people were earning $50 an hour we wouldn't be importing cheap products from China to enrich the Walton family. And as you say, if $25 and hour is "comfortable living" for blue-collar workers then why isn't it adequate for CEO's? It's that fascist sort of thinking that's going to have the Yen replacing the USD as the next global currency. Imagine what the cost of living in the US is going to look like then. The fascist system only works for fascist, and the closer we move towards full automation and drone technology the less everyone else will matter. The G20 has been talking about sustainability since 1996 (the same year DARPA created the worldwide web), it's all about promoting fascism. Look at the 2050 predictions, the fascist are saying that the .01% are more important than the 99.9%, and if people don't wake up soon to what's really going on it'll soon be too late. Fascism is the true money-pit. You point to Venezuela (every fascist go-to) ignoring that the global debt is $58,812,670,000,000 and still rising. By the time you read this post it'll probably be more like $58,813,000,000,000, but total global wealth is only $241 trillion.
     
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    You complain and blame fascism; I rely on people becoming self sufficient. If you did that, the super rich would cease to matter. Their "wealth" is on paper. Blaming the rich don't put money in your pocket; however, instead of blaming people like me, why not look at who the whites are choosing to lead them. Trump's in bed with a Board of Director for the Council on Foreign Relations.

    You can't do anything about the trillions wasted by governments... except refuse to become a part of it. Learn the economics of your own country and separate yourself from the New World Order.
     
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    Ha! the Democrats have been pushing away the White vote for generations, and then they nominated Hillary, they practically endorsed Trump.
     
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    Trump is a vested Democrat. He never voted for Republicans. ANYBODY the Dems support must have a hatred for white people. That is why the only whites who vote Democrat are self serving sell outs. They belong to special interest groups and are the kind that prefer the company of non-whites over their own race.

    That in no way means that I am for the Republicans. The right has bought into the left wing agenda hook, line and sinker... just for different reasons. Their lack of critical thinking skills won't allow them to believe that the super rich control the Republican Establishment and most of the agenda they support is Hegelian Dialectics calculated to get them to the same destination that the Dems are going. They do it for different reasons, but they are going to end up at the same destination. Quick example:

    The Democrats want your gun. So, they conjure up slick ways to take them from you on the installment plan. The most notable is the background check. In order for that to work, you must have National ID. In order for National ID to work, you must have a universal number. That universal number is your Socialist Surveillance Number.... ooops, "Social Security Number." It's Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids.

    The Republicans think that foreigners should undergo a background check in order to exercise their unalienable Rights - and God have mercy if you tell those simple minded whites that all men have unalienable Rights - most of those low IQ types cannot even look up the meaning of the word unalienable. And so, like the Democrats, the Republicans need background checks.

    E-Verify needs a National ID to work and National ID needs a universal number to identify people with. And your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oops, "Social Security Number" just happened to be that. So, both sides want background checks that are a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment AND they don't work!

    BOTH sides pick safety over Liberty; BOTH sides pick socialism over unalienable Rights; BOTH sides end up endorsing the 16th Amendment which is an illegally ratified Amendment and a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

    Neither sides sees the arguments put forth by our founding fathers. BOTH sides are equally opposed to the foundational principles upon which this country was founded. The whites have become so dumbed down that they think unalienable Rights are given by the government and only applicable to citizens. To that end, the Tea Party type Republicans (especially) claim to be in favor of enforcing immigration laws that were passed by liberal Ted Kennedy and aimed at reducing the white population. So, they're cool with a million new citizens, the bulk of which are non-white (and many in that rich group even you hate), but they had rather die than to think little brown people with no power or clout have unalienable Rights unless they (the whites representing the Tea Party types) endorse it. But, if they get bred out of existence due in large part by foreigners who become legal citizens (sic) it's all cool. They're too stupid to read the 14th Amendment and create strategies built around that. Noooo. Instead they join the Democrats and both sides work toward that ultimate POLICE STATE that cannot be resisted. Whites deserve to be discriminated against for being morons and playing into the hands of globalists while pretending to have thought all the possible strategies through. The Dems are honest enough to tell you they are socialist to the core. Whites on the right.... not so much. But, they are - and they know it.
     
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    How was the 16th Amendment illegally ratified? And how are you tossing the 2nd Amendment under the 9th? The 9th Amendment simply recognizes that some rights are human rights, they cannot be given-transferred-or taken away. The 9th Amendment is so obvious that it has never even been quoted in a court of law. However, most US citizens (White or otherwise) don't even know what the 9th Amendment covers.

     
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    Why not?
    Cheaper wholesale costs = more profit.
     
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    If you don't know the story behind the 16th Amendment, this should enlighten you and is well worth the time it takes to watch it:



    I don't know where you getting that I throw the Second Amendment under the 9th. I don't even recall mentioning the 9th Amendment.

    The purpose and the scope of the Second Amendment is made clear by the earliest court decisions (i.e. the first decisions that came out of the courts.) I'll start with the very first time a gun control law was thrown out on constitutional grounds:

    "The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of the free State." Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243 (1846)

    "The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power." Cocxkrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)

    "The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence."
    United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

    Without multiplying court precedents for you, the earliest courts stated that the Right to keep and bear Arms is absolute; it belongs to the people; it is NOT a Right granted by the Constitution. It wasn't until the founding fathers were all dead and buried before the courts began legislating from the bench to change that, but the bottom line is the founding fathers never intended for you to be subject to background checks in order to exercise your Second Amendment Rights....l or any other constitutionally guaranteed Right. Period. It is impossible to read their words and the first court decisions both state and federal and come to any other conclusion.

    White people, however, will do anything to acknowledge the fact that unalienable Rights are not subject to government approval. If you have to ask permission, you never had the Right. Furthermore, NOBODY has a Right to impose on your Fourth Amendment Rights without probable cause. Exercising an unalienable Right simply is not sufficient to warrant a search of your background. Yet, both the left and the right are committed to the destruction of your Rights - starting with the Fourth Amendment. White people, the "posterity" of the Constitution's Preamble ought to know better.

    FWIW, even Russo got caught up in the deception of denying people unalienable Rights due to a false presupposition. His work on the 16th Amendment, however, is without equal.
     
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    It's scary that a lot of people don't understand the economics of their own nation.

    We've tried unions. You get great wages and what happens? You price yourself out of the market and companies pick up their toys and run off to foreign countries where it is profitable.

    We've never tried incentives that would give substantial tax breaks to hire an all American staff, take people off the welfare/ unemployment / disability rolls and pay a percentage over poverty level as a starting wage.
     
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    Profit for the Walton, but not the consumers. That's the problem with fascist, they don't understand that democracy is about what's in the best interests of the majority.
     
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    America is NOT a democracy. It is a Republic. Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution states:

    "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this Union a Republican Form of Government."

    The biggest difference between the Republic and Democracy is that unalienable Rights are not subject to a majority vote. Check out this link as well:

    http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvdem.htm

    I'm not in favor of mega corporations. At the same time, people start businesses in order to make a profit, not provide you with a job. One of the reasons I'm sick of the whites in this country is that they do not understand the economics of their own nation and opt for democracies, socialist solutions, and sometimes outright communism - and always a path to the NEW WORLD ORDER / ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. Why?

    The Republic as envisioned by our founding fathers served us well and we became the most prosperous nation in the annals of history before we started trying to bastardize our country by implementing forms of government that are transient at best, and failures at the extreme end of the spectrum.
     
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    Nothing here explains why WalMart, once paying $50/hr, will no longer import cheap products.
    Please try again.
     
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    That was a well organized video (I did appreciate it) however, the 16th Amendments was about granting Congress the "right" to collect taxes. It was not a law in and of itself but there was no wording to suggest that it couldn't pass and enforce laws to facilitate that right. The argument of if it had passed laws or not is a separate matter. I am not one to particularly defend the 16th Amendment, as I agree with all the arguments against it as "stolen private property" but as long as it remains unrepealed I have to defend it's legality that is currently a right recognized in the US Constitution.
     

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