SIG Sauer leaves bidding - Germany’s next Army Rifle cannot be American

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  1. Sobo

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    From my point of view you are a troll and a bad one. You have a massive problem with a patriotic German. You made that clear often enough.

    I stand 100% for my nation and dont take **** from anyone. Especially not from someone from a country i look down down.

    Germany is mostly anti american. We see you as primitive and look down on you on so many matters. And the former eastern German states absolutely despise
    you.

    A few years ago your military wanted open a hospital in my state Thüringen to treat your soldiers who got stab wounds in the middle east.

    Our then minister president (similar to your governor) Christine Lieberknecht did evrything in her power to prevent this. She said she would rather open a pig farm.

    You can google it up.

    I stand for what i say and i say what the majority here thinks regarding your "people".

    Nothing you say or do can change that. I see your kind as plaque.
     
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    If you hate America so much why do you think about us and write about us every day?

    I suspect its because you are more impressed with the United States than you are willing to admit
     
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  3. Sobo

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    I use it to better my english. And i have some here that i like as friends.

    The problem is that some of you have a massive problem with a patriotic young German who gives a **** about your insults.

    And you also have in general a massive problem with a powerful, wealthy Germany that actively stands for its interests and does not act in your interests.

    Thats the problem here.

    Its easy isn´t it? If you insult Germany, then you get an insult back. If you stay fair towards my nation, so i stay fair.
     
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    I dont insult germany but you often insult America

    Actually I almost never even think about germany

    Nor do I post bad german on your websites telling germans how bad they are

    But we get that from our former friends the Brits, Canadians, and Australians as well as our traditional enemies

    I guess thats the price we pay for our position in the world

    At least you are honest enough to admit your open dislike for us and your status as a foreigner
     
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    I've been in Germany many times and you're not a typical patriotic German. You're a throwback to the 1930s.
    You're perpetrating a fraud.

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    There are Germans (and other Europeans) like you who don't like America and that's why I generally travel on my Canadian passport. That said, I think you're overstating the hostility toward the United States.
    I hear a lot from Germans about the United States when they don't realize I'm also an American and not just a Canadian. Your hatred isn't typical.
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    Sobo
     
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    Ruger is the last name of the company's founder.
     
  7. Sobo

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    I´m moderate. As police officer i dont join anti american demonstrations like the one in Berlin which attracted one million demonstrators. I´m quite easy going regarding that.

    Also i dont think you ever visited an eastern German state. I´m not a throwback of the 1930th. Back then they were mostly pro america. You propably dont know this.

    I stand for my nation. I have nothing against yours as long you dont insult us or act like you are the boss.

    I have no hatred towards your country. You hate mine. You have a problem with a strong and self confident Germany.

    Btw i like Mass Effect. At least the original triology. Too bad EA ****ed Bioware up. Mass Effect Andromeda was crap.
     
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    Most Germans, like most Americans, are very friendly toward foreigners. They're confident enough in their country not to get upset when someone is critical.
    I'm talking about your attitudes toward your country being typical of 1930s Germany.
    You act like you control Europe. You don't.
    I don't care for your attitude which isn't at all like the views of most Germans.
    If I did, I wouldn't visit your country.
     
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    So tell me why can wenn push our interests in the EU 100% but No one can decide anything against our will. How comes that french politicians call EU a german empire?

    You dont know Most Germans. We are human beings and like all human beings we Like to be in charge. We do control Europe.


    https://www.jstor.org/stable/4177208?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    And we must lead. As biggest nation, strongest econony it is our duty to lead.

    I have nothing against you being critical. But i dont accept insults or belitteling of my nation.

    You say you visit my country? I guess you never stepped a foot into eastern Germany.
     
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    Because it sounds good to French voters. Why else would they say it? If the French didn't have Germans to blame, they'd have to blame themselves.
    No, you don't control Europe. The problem with Europe is that it isn't unified politically and economically, but it has a common currency. Only the Dutch and yourselves benefit from the Euro.

    You can afford to let Greece and Portugal go broke--they're small fish--but larger countries like Italy and Spain are too big to fail. They'll take you down with them and you can't afford to let that happen. It's going to cost Germany a lot of money to prop them up.
    Your cite is 20-years-old and way, way out-of-date. The Euro is an albatross for the EU and ultimately for Germany when your protected market countries get weaker and weaker. Alas, if you get rid of the Euro, the weaker countries will devalue, EU industry will move to those countries, and that will put downside pressure on German industry. Already automobile production is shifting to Eastern Europe.
    Leading isn't controlling. You don't seem to know the difference.
    I have, but not as often as I have other parts of your country I prefer.

    BTW, I wasn't kidding when I said I travel on a Canadian passport. If you want to be welcome almost everywhere, be a Canadian. My wife and I were in the Netherlands this year on V-E Day. When the Dutch staff in the hotel we were staying at went to celebrate, they invited us to celebrate with them because Canada was a big part of liberating their country.
     
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    We do control Europe. We must. Look at all the other countries who are basicly failed states. Who if not us has the right to make evrything better for all Europeans. Countries like France or Spain are run like african bongo bongo republics.

    Its Germany that brings order and prevents their pathetic banana ideology from becoming a reality.

    You want an actual one?

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...h-ruins-war-how-new-european-empire-was-built

    The EU is our empire and we did quite good with it.

    It is funny that you even try to insult my home region now. Why dont you like our states? Thüringen, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg are the most beautiful parts of Germany.

    There is a reason why my state is called the "Green Heart" of Germany. But of course you wouldnt like it because you hate independend thinking Germans.

    As for your dutch story, thats nice. Obviously the canadians did not rape as much dutch women as their american colleagues did. Also funny to speak about "liberation", when the majority of dutch did colloborate and were more firece "jew hunters" than any other group. But i guess they prefer to forget that. Thats how humans are.
     
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    If you controlled them, they wouldn't behave as they do.
    Germans are crazy if they fully integrate with the rest of the EU. They'll bring you down.
    I prefer the West Coast of North America, but that doesn't mean I dislike Eastern Canada and the Eastern United States.
    :deadhorse:
    Based on my travels and discussions, I think the reason most Europeans have come to like Germans is they think you're sorry for what happened in WW2. They realize what happened to a civilized country like Germany could have happened anywhere there was hyperinflation followed a few years later by a depression.
    Jew-hating has a long history in Europe, but Germany brought it to a new level.
     
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    Well since you use alot of video game references let me use one as well.

    The EU is like Justice League. Germany is the strongest and most powerful member of the group. We lead and we represent Superman. France is more like Wonder Woman ;)

    No one can denie that we lead Europe. And evryone agrees that we do so for the better of all.
     
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    Maybe the Germans should have their weapons made in Afghanistan?
     
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    You're so certain that Germany will make the right move and prop them up. They won't. As it becomes clearer that the European Utopia requires that course of action, political groups in Germany that oppose the EU will become more powerful, be it AfD or some popular socialist movement.

    Germany is the only country that can save the European project, and they're not going to do it. The pro-EU elements of their political system are fracturing, and the **** hasn't even hit the fan yet.
     
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    I wonder how he will feel is he knows my great uncle was really Sgt. Rock?
     
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    I wonder if you understand how other Europeans see Germany.
     
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    Actually, I doubt the German people will pony up the money necessary to prop up the mess created by the Euro zone. Yes, German industry has benefitted from the Euro making it impossible for weaker EU economies to devalue, but try explaining that to German workers.
    That's my guess.
     
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    The AfD is strongly pro EU but against the € in its current form.
     
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    Does it matter how they see us?

    Its irrelevant. No matter what we do, they cry.

    When we helped greece they shouted because eastern europe is poorer than Greece and struggeles out of this themself. When we pushed hard meassurements on greece they cried as well and called it evil.

    When we act harsh they cry that we are too dominant. When we hold ourself back they cry for our lack of leadership.
     
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    While you may offer leadership in the EU, (and in my opinion do) it is a very big mistake for you to believe that you "control" it.
    You control nothing. Can't even control Greece, a country that is dependent upon your charity for food.

    Humans won't be controlled. Any attempt to control others results in antagonism.
    Provokes an aggressive response. If you are looking to self destruct as a nation once again, follow your ambitions further.

    What other countries do, is not irrelevant to you. Not even remotely. Sorry.
    Learn the lessons of history, because all that you hold dear depends upon this.
     
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    The question is what you see as "control". Germany sets the basic principles and leadership. We set the route and in most cases others follow.

    In Greece we forced it to follow our demands. Not out of evil intentions but to save them from themself and it worked.

    Germany is the only country in Europe that has the ability to force its will on all others simply because its economic and political dominance.

    I agree that this does not work when its done again and again. Germany usually convinces others that what we want is the best solution.

    Greece is the only case i know where Germany made a show of force, pushed France and Italy aside and forced Greece to accept our terms.

    Usually things run different. Germany looks as things progress. The smaller countries try to win Germany for their ideas and Germany pushs the Agenda in a specific direction.
     
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    Sieg Heil.
     
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    Do you actually know what those words mean? I doubt it or you would not spill them out like that.

    Do you know who Attila the Hun was? He was a brutal mongol who tried to conquer Europe. When he flushed with his troops over Hungary, Poland and eastern Europe he killed millions. He did not conquer cities, he erased them. He killed evryone. Children, women, old people. Even animals got killed.

    Massive amounts of people escaped from the east into german lands so the german tribes knew what was coming for them.

    The Germans under King Theoderich and Thorismund organized a counter strike. A battle that would decide not just German future but for all of Europe.

    German armies won and destroyed Attilas forces who retreated from Europe. "Sieg Heil" was the motto of the germanic soldiers then. It took the eastern european regions 500 years to replace the population lost to Attila.

    Sieg Heil means "Salvation Victory". It was the greeting of those who fought a war so brutal you would piss your pants just being nearby.

    You cant know this. Your people never faced a war on their own territory that decides about their future or if they have a future at all. You had a small civil war which you hold so high like it was something big when in reality it would be seen as small squirmish by european standards.
     
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    Why do you care what a handful of taunting, Nazi obsessed Germanophobes think about Germany when according to a recent BBC poll,(1) Germany is the most popular country on the planet?

    You have ample reasons to be proud of today's Germany which has more than paid its dues for what is for some profit driven individuals, an indelible past.

    As you stated, a few people are going to whine & condemn Germany no matter what it does so just be content with being the most popular country in the world


    (1) “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bb...tions-1.525890

    EXCERPT“The annual BBC World Service poll finds Germany most popular; only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.”CONTINUED
     

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