"Single motherhood" is a myth

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    I'd wager that more than 90% of single mothers are not actually raising children completely independently - as in working a full-time career while juggling raising 5 children via their own merit.

    Raising 5 kids on welfare while working part time at Burger King is the polar opposite of independence.

    So in reality, single mothers do not exist, it's just Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, and other rich (usually) white men raising their kids for them via tax dollars, except by proxy, and therefore sans the interaction that an in-person father provides.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    The single mother is alive and well in the United States.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    If Warren Buffet's tax dollars are comprising the bulk of the cost of raising the children, then they're "single mothers" in name only.
     
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    Wow. Way to to the focus off all the deadbeat fathers.
     
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    Single motherhood means just that a non married woman is taking care of her kid(s). Nothing at all to do with finances.
     
  6. SpaceCricket79

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    Fact is that promoting or idolizing single motherhood is just promoting welfare dependency, since it's virtually impossible for a woman to juggle raising several kids while working a full-time, well-paying job (or for a father too for that matter).
     
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    how do you take care of kids without finances?
     
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    Not accurate. Children of single mothers have much higher rates of "failure" - being on welfare, becoming a criminal, ending up in prison, etc. Even the liberal media has reported this:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/07/single_motherhood_worse_for_children_.html
    The Kids Are Not Really Alright
    It’s worse to be raised by a single mother, even if you’re not poor

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/19/3305931/income-single-mothers/
    Working Single Mothers Are Disproportionately Likely To Be Poor​
     
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    In this country, it's impossible. I just see single motherhood as the actual primary caretaker. The work being done and all that.
     
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    So, are you saying that single mothers usually aren't taking care of their children all that well? If you're correct, about that, I'll concede here. (I'll go through your links just a sec...).
     
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    and once again... how do you do that without finances?

    and you said "in this country its impossible"... are there other countries you could cite where you don't need money to take care of kids?

    any examples would be appreciated...
     
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    Yeah, not every country has a first-world economy. Many places still barter and in some places, the people are isolated from the rest of the world. For example, the Amazonian tribes. The children are cared for, but there are no finances involved.


    The first link supports the idea that a woman can't be much of mother if she is single. So I'll concede that the single motherhood is (*cough* ahem) a myth (in at least this country).

    The second article made me think that the single mother demographic is growing because the caliber of women is shrinking in this country.
     
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    Yep. I have no doubt that broken households account for a gargantuan portion of the welfare meted out in this country. It's the only alternative a single parent has, realistically, without being a millionaire.
     
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    lol thats the best example you could come up with hey... the amazonian tribes... thats seriously the only example you have to prove your claims... way to, I guess nothing... lol
     
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    It wasn't the best I could do, although I see nothing wrong with my example *shrug*. It was my way of showing that motherhood is something pretty ancient and in ancient times women didn't have or need money to take care of children.
     
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    "Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, and other rich (usually) white men"
    Generally pay less taxes than a upper middle class (whatever color) worker........
    It's the middle classes job to raise these baby mama whores.....
    And we are tired of it.
     
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    Good job on calling single mothers whores while totally ignoring the actions of the deadbeat fathers. You win the mysogonist award for today.
     
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    There is a kind of obscure mindlessness to your opinion, a major flaw in logic. Not all single mothers are on welfare, I'm not, never was. I managed to bring up 3 daughters without the help or presence of a male in my household. I work full time, (and make 6 figures) managed to get a college degree (going part-time for 71/2 years) and am surrounded by loving friends who were and are, always willing to help me out......all without my daughters various fathers present.

    Is is obvious that there is an ideological stupidity amongst the less educated that all single mothers are black....I'm not. You need to get out in the real world.
     
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    If you were divorced then I imagine your ex paid child support, unless you are a widow.

    I don't think the Gov't should help anyone. Until the 60's this was the responsibility of families, charities & the Church as it should be today. You make a kid/you pay for it.
     
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    Isn't that what this thread is for? Yes, it is. Just promoting hate for a "group".......like terrorists do.

    It's to put the blame on women but never mention cowardly slime ball men who leave their kids, no mention of just how well those saintly men do when, AND IF, THEY ever have to raise kids alone...
     
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    """I don't think the Gov't should help anyone"""


    Translated: The government should only help me and bankers and Wall Streeters and GM and millionaires and billionaires but NOT people I don't approve of.

    OR: The government should quit building roads and infrastructure and having laws and keeping a military, provide weather forecast, disaster aid, maintaining parks and public places, enforcing laws and safety regulations, etc. We should all do that ourselves.

    either way :roll:
     
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    Money is everything to some people. Its a sign that materialism/consumerism is the real god of the modern world. Its strange that its strictest adherents also pretend that other religions are important, when they are so obviously meaningless to them.

    The person that holds you, protects you and guides you and says proudly "I am your mother" will do more to make you who you will become than the person who pays the light bill.

    I know the argument goes on about what happens without electricity and lights and so on. But if it all falls apart like that the mother will be the only thing left for the baby, and that does not make her any less important in my eyes.
     
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    Men can't be whores?
    IMO......men (and women) who father/mother a child without a way to support (or pay support) lose their right to their private(s).
    If you get my drift.
    AND, those that make statements like: "You win the mysogonist award for today"......have NO understanding that I personally do NOT get 2 (*)(*)(*)(*)s!
    In case you haven't been paying any attention.....this world is/has not been a kind place. Keep your "award". I never want one of those PARTICIPATION TROPHY'S...NEVER....EVER!
     
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    Why not promote a fact of life? Disparaging single mothers isn't going to convince deadbeat fathers to stick around. Should the mother then simply abandon the children to the state altogether? Is that a workable alternative? Or should there be more stringent and punitive measures aimed at men that walk away?

    As well, "welfare dependency" is not something that is unique to single mothers. Sure, they don't make it look as great as the upper echelon, but unless you're actually in the middle class, you take more than you give.
     
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    In my view, it doesn't really matter if it is a myth; is is simply better to solve for social problems than to merely wage "war" on them. Would we have the problems we do with more effective social safety nets that solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment while not creating monetary incentive to have more kids, rather than having kids when more ready for them.
     

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