Slavic legion

Discussion in 'Russia & Eastern Europe' started by Potap, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    It's all about outlook.

    I think everyone can agree that the prospect of French citizenship is more attractive than Russian citizenship.

    Not to mention the reputation of the Russian Army isn't exactly the best one, especially not for foreigners -- even if they have white skin.
     
  2. KGB agent

    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    Russian Federation stands for something: Свобода, Равенство и Братство!
    French Republic = Gays, Croissants and Frogs?

    I meant that you wrote pointless thing.

    Seems to be Potap's point.

    Check your facts. I thought it was EU in the debt crisis and unemployment hitting 20% in several places.
    *Facepalm.jpg*
    Check your facts.

    Not sure I get your point. French Legion soldiers are trading with plague and cholera?
    Not at all.

    *Facepalm.jpg* again.
     
  3. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, the problem with some Russians is that instead of acknowleding Russians problems in order to solve them -- they just ignore or deny them.

    There is a reason why rich Russians send their children to Western European schools, or enroll them in Russian private schools where they receive an education in a Western-European language, e.g. French, English or German...
     
  4. KGB agent

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    Sadly, the problem with some Belgians is that instead of knowing the truth -- they just ignore it or deny it.

    It is not too hard to find out, that each Russian citizen have right for free medium and high education, isn't it? I told you many times - check you facts in order not to show yourself as ignorant biased....person.

    To specific Western European schools. Not ordinary ones. Prestige?
     
  5. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    ...

    KGB_Agent, you really think I'd make such remarks if I haven't done any research?!

    1° Healthcare -- not free
    2° Education -- secondary education is universally free, but tertiary education is not:

    Yeah, but I'm ignorant and biased...not. :roll:

    Anyways, I think we can all agree -- and if you are honest, you can too -- that live is better in France than in Russia.

    True, but nontheless it fits in bigger scope of Russian history: the Russian elite has always been in favour of Europe, they are largely "Europeanized" whilst the normal and average Russians are mainly in favour of some sort of "slavic country". :(
     
  6. KGB agent

    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.

    .......otherwise you won't wrote things below.

    It is partly. A medical emergency, baseline surveys and the most popular types of drugs are absolutely free. If you need to remove a brain tumor, well, you have pay for it's removal. Just like in the huge part of the world.
    Higher education is free, if you meant it with "tertiary education".

    You certainly are.

    Live in Norway is better than in France. So....you think all "Foreign Legion" troops would escape it and join "Norway's legion", if they decide to make one?

    Totally not until Peter the Great.
    USSR disapprove you too.
     
  7. DaVinci

    DaVinci New Member

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    Kosovo will never be part of serbian terroristic state. Kosovo was occupied, now that it has become a country and it is being exposed to constant threat from serbian terrorists which are helding in tension northern part of our Republic. It is the same as you if referred to DDR as part of USSR.
    Even nowadays, KFOR German and Austrian soldiers are being assaulted and attacked by serb terrorists. Angela Merkel has condemned this attack, and considers it as a direct violence of Kosova's integrity by the side of Beligradski Pashaluk( i think serbia can not use it's official name anymore, considering disintegration). Vojvodina and Sandzak should be the next one...
     
  8. DaVinci

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    I think that it is you who can attribute to himself those kind of qualifications addressed to Clinton by you. serbs did attacked Catholic Slovenia and Croatia, not to mention Muslim Slavs of Bosnia. serbs did occupied Vojvodina and expelled and killed Catholic Germans and Hungarians. serbs did attacked and occupied Bulgarian orthodox lands.
    Where is serbian 'christianity' acccording to you !
     
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    DaVinci New Member

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    How can anyone (from Balkans' Slavs) trust serbs, when they incited every war with them. Just remember Croats, Slovenes, Bosniacs, Bulgars ...
     
  10. raymondo

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    Don't be too hard on poor KbG .
    He has no doubt had a hard slap from the authorities for his horrible racism , and then has had to desperately study new subjects now that his political knowledge has been found to be laughable .
    He can't really say anything until Monday when the fraudulent (s)election results are announced , and even then he will have to report back to be first given the rubbish official news release
    " After many threats , false promises and often having to slap and kick annoying peasants , we managed to get the result our beloved leader insisted on . " said Silliov Borisov our Nasihi contact in the murky world of Russian Gangster politics .
     
  11. janpor

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    Sorry, KGB_Agent but I think you made a crappy post...

    I think sometimes Russians are pretty weird.

    If Russians should make a thread about Belgium and point out Belgium's short-comings, I -- as a Belgian -- will probably agree with the criticism.

    Most citizens of Western-European countries, Germans, Frenchmen, Belgians, etc. -- are their own fiercest critics.

    This is the tragedy of Russia and Russians -- you are unwilling, or unable, to criticize yourself. Sad -- since your country could become a better place because of it.

    Russians are like Americans in that regard.

    If a new Russian posters arrive on PF.com and has fierce criticism on Russia and Russian population y'all (= Russian club of posters on PF.com) start stalking them and repond to their posts with silly things like: "10 minutes waisted", or *facepalm.jpg*, etc.

    I agree, sometimes *facepalm* can be funny and neccessary, e.g. if some posters say that Polish aeroplane was shot down by KGB... but not all the time.

    I find that really sad...

    Anyways, to respond to some stuff.

    Sure, life is better in Norway than in France -- but only marginally. There is enormous difference between life of average Frenchman and that of average Russian.

    Another tragedy of Russia is that it hasn't have a traditional "understream" that is Russian in nature, e.g. communism, capitalism, democracy and liberalism are all imported ideologies from Western Europe. Russia's greatest city is almost entirely built in Western-European style, Russia's greatest museum (Hermitage) is filled with Western-European masterpieces. Even Russian orthodoxism is a watered-down version of Greek orthodoxism!

    Then, you had the awesome Russian avant-garde movement, which I completely adore!
    But most of them fled to the West! I wonder why? Something must have been bad with Russia, no?

    Even now, rich Russians send their kids to UK, France, Switzerland, etc. so that their children will enjoy Western-European upbringing.

    Russia is a sad, but very interesting, story. :(

    As far as I'm concerned, there is only way that Russia will become great and that is when they will come over themselves and their inferior-complex and join the club of European nations all together.
     
  12. spt5

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    Do you expect that Russian citizenship will become hotter than e.g. Slovakian citizenship in the future?

    Also, wouldn't this be detrimental to the restoration of East Poland?
     
  13. LenaSrb

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    We have it by fair prices.
    We have a Free Trade Agreement since August 2000 and the list of tax free excluded goods is revised annually.
    They donated money for a restoration of Orthodox monasteries in Kosovo, who has been destroyed by Albos, they have sent humanitarian aid when ever situation escalated.Russia approved 1 billion Euro loan to Serbia.
    We have it when in need.
    I'd be a reasonable person and tell that I certainly don't expect WW3 to start 'cause of Kosovo, but on the other hand new humanitarian center, joint project of Russia and Serbia is opened in Nis, Serbia...
    We're fighting them all our lives. Serbia is still the biggest country in many aspects (number of citizens, territorial etc.) and we don't need a help to fight gangs of that kind; while admittedly, it would be suicidal to actively fight NATO for instance.
    If Russia doesn't supports Serbia you won't be a silent witness of my almost a quixotic attempts to preserve a single cultural thread on this section-'Mother Russia' from malicious spammer attacks.
    Brainless they were.
     
  14. spt5

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    Sorry to say, but Serbia is also a Criminal "State", only established a few decades earlier. Don't be mislead by a medieval map showing a Serbia. That has nothing common with today's country/people of Serbia.
     
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    no but it is well-known brand , then they pay sure better you can... then possibility to get EU pass
     
  16. Ostap Bender

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    Janpor,

    at first time I agree with you. You probably know that Russia is governed today by KGB, therefore it employs thousands well paid trolls and Internet monitors who harass and persecute any critic on Russian regime.

    The Putin Regime has failed everywhere therefore his trolls have lack of arguments, they can only insult, bash or harass opponents. The same situation is almost on all forums worldwide because Putins Regime give $billions to silence any opposition or to eliminate it.Any critic an Kremlin Regime is an "extremism" and can be punished with murder.Interesting that trolls probably use worldwide an written standard "scenario" to fight the opposition, their methods are almost on all forums equal.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Only if Russia will became a true free democratic republic it would be happened. Probably in fifty years or later.At least three generations must be changed.
     
  18. KGB agent

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    If they would be real, not imaginary ones. Right?

    You are fumbling in ignorance. You know nothing, completely nothing about Russians, their mindset and their culture. Yet, you still doing assumptions about us.
    For example "Russians -- you are unwilling, or unable, to criticize yourself"-was ultimately retarded.

    If you are not capable to differ really fat trolls, who are writing nothing more, but dumb lies from "criticism" I assume we have nothing to talk about. Ever.
    You do really think, that "Putin's mother is living in Georgia", "St.Petersburg is like 3-rd world country" and "KGB murdered Polish president!!!111" guy and schoolboy from (*)(*)(*)(*)hole Kosovo in their pathetic attempts to insult Russians deserve more then "facepalm"? Rly? :mrgreen:

    What makes you so sure about "enormous difference"? Read too much "free press" yesterday evening? Taxes, purchasing power - ever heard about?
    Another example - indeed, there is difference between live level in United states and France too, yet there are a lot of foreign citizens in US army, according to your logic they all should join "foreign legion". Salary isn't a main point of it.

    The world is developing as a whole, and sometimes some economic system is spreading in another country. We have had this "communism", despite Russia was a capitalist country before.
    God (*)(*)(*)(*) it, you messed everything up, you wrote economical systems, political system and a political stream in your statement.

    Moscow? :mrgreen:
    What is wrong with St-Petersburg having it's historical center built in western manner?
    And? It is also filled with Russian masterpieces. It would be filled with Middle-Eastern and Chinese masterpieces, if their culture was well-known and considered "great" those time that collection was formed.
    *facepalm.jpg*
    Please, stop doing dumb statements.
    "Even French catolicism is watered-down version of Italian catolicism"
    "Even Italian catolicism/Greek orthodoxism is watered-down version of Jewish judaism sect". E.T.C.

    Such as?

    *facepalm.jpg*
    They enjoy getting prestige education. Nobody sends children to ordinary western-european schools, they are piece of (*)(*)(*)(*).



    *facepalm.jpg*
    Our conversation is over.
     
  19. raymondo

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    I see the ex director of Russian Statistics resigned telling Duma MPs that he was sick of living a lie and presenting false numbers on every conceivable matter
    Seems that what all professional Russian watchers have known for decades is finally confirmed by the very person responsible for producing the supposed official numbers .

    As for comparatively more trivial matters ,
    Putin's birth mother is alive and in Georgia and gave many interviews to Russian TV which are readily available . Of course the fact that all information about Putin's official version parents has been lost is just a coincidence .Of course .
    Sure , the April 2010 Smolensk Massacre Topic is mind blowing when first heard and ridicule is expected and invariably received .
    The trouble is that the hard evidence is in the public domain and will never go away until the truth emerges . The incident is known as Katyn 2 , and like the mind blowing Katyn 1 massacre , it might take decades before the truth is officially acknowledged .
    I defy anybody reading the full dossier not to be truly thunder struck at the huge amount of factual evidence available and the unanswerable conclusion that it shows beyond any reasonable doubt .
    But how would you know?
    You have no inkling of the evidence and would never dare look at it because it might turn your little world upside down .
     
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    HillBilly New Member Past Donor

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    :bump: that's a lot of change , lots of hopes for family and friend alike.

    The crops grow , people fed , the increase of the land must sustain us . :)
     
  21. Potap

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    What values were protected by French aircrafts in Libya?
     
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    Potap Well-Known Member

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    I do not understand, why do you worry so much? If you do not want to join " Slavic legion ", do not do that. This is for those who loves it and respects Russia. We have here enough immigrants including immigrants from west countries.
     
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    Oil. Oil and Al-Quaeda. French are going to enjoy both in following decades.
     
  24. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    Do not post nonsense! Healthcare is free. Though there are some paid clinics which for money give better service. Like in any capitalist country. But as a whole Russian Healthcare is free.
    Education is is free too. Including secondary and post secondary education. There are some paid schools but as a whole education is free for everybody. My daughter studies in one of the best Russian universities and we do not pay money absolutely. Every university has so-called budgetary vacancies, paid by the state and commercial vacancies in which student study for own money.. So the group of students studying philosophy in which studies my daughter consists of 16 persons. There are only 3 commercial students. All others occupied budgetary vacancies.

    You confuse elite and a gang of thieves which have stolen money from the budget and have bought a castle in Western Europe for this money. So-called imperial Russian elite also had castles in the western Europe and they have got 1917 after that.
     
  25. Potap

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    You confuse criticism and crap which post here many users. There is something for which Russia should be criticized, But Russia has not deserved tons crap which post some stupid users at this forum. If I'd start to criticize Belgium in such way, I doubt you'd named this as normal criticism.
     

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