So, Biden can bring home a druggie WNBA player but not a white dude locked up in Russia?

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't even try and say it isn't race related. Biden is more racist than I thought! He got that basketball druggie out so fast you would think she was his own daughter.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-...ershkovich-marks-one-year-as-russian-hostage/

    Evan Gershkovich, the American citizen and Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reporter kidnapped by Vladimir Putin’s regime in Russia in March 2023, marked one year in captivity on Friday, March 29.

    Gershkovich was arrested in Yekaterinburg on highly dubious espionage charges last year and has been held without trial or evidence presented against him ever since. Russian courts have rejected a string of appeals from Gershkovich’s legal team against his unlawful imprisonment.

    I'm sorry Evan, but since your name is not "JAMAL" , Biden is gonna let you rot!

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    Biden his priorities. The basketball player was a left winger and "a woman of color." Evan Gershkovich is a white, Jewish person who works for The Wall Street Journal. which is not in Biden's hip pocket.
     
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    A white guy stuck in Russia because of Biden? I read the title and thought it was referring to Edward Snowden.
     
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    Biden is as old as dirt. He comes from a time that believes women and children first like the Titanic sinking. Old people called it chivalry. It seems modern thinking has injected race into the question. In the new chivalry list do you think white men should come before black women and children? What would your order be?
     
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    This comes down to Biden admin being weak and not having great negotiating skills.


    Russian officials said Gerskhovich is viewed as a “bargaining chip” by the Putin regime, which hopes to exchange him for a large number of Russian criminals held in Western prisons.
    Putin himself has said he is interested in a prisoner swap, possibly trading Gerskhovich for Russian government hitman Vadim Krasikov, currently jailed in Germany.
    Krasikov, 58, was arrested, given a fair trial, and sentenced in 2021 for the broad-daylight murder in Berlin of a man Russia accused of complicity in a 2004 terrorist attack. Putin has been eager to recover Krasikov, a high-ranking officer in the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), the successor to the KGB.
    Even if a swap could be arranged, the German government could be highly resistant to letting Krasikov go, not least because he gunned his victim down in front of children and their parents at a Berlin playground.
    Some allies of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who died under murky circumstances in an Arctic prison last month, believe he was killed to thwart a proposed prisoner swap for Krasikov that involved Navalny, Gershkovich, and another long-imprisoned American hostage, Paul Whelan.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get back to me when its a black man in jail in russia and USA gets them out in 2 seconds flat. It was clever to play the gender angle, but not on my watch. They haven't gotten him out yet because of his lack of pigment and you know it
     
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    You are the one making this a race issue not me. Your entire premise is based on your belief what the actions would be based on race.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It IS a race issue. Black person gets the VIP treatment while whitey is left to rot in a foreign cell
    A vote for Racist Joe is a vote for white genocide
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hear ya man. Its absolutely DISGUSTING
     
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    How do you know he’s doing nothing?
     
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    What are the odds that the OP or Breitbart stopped to think about maybe Googling "Evan Gershkovich""Biden"

    Let's check, shall we. [Checks] Yep, another homework fail from the right. You guys may have hit a record this week.
     
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    When the basketball player got arrested Biden & Co took to the media demanding her release, WH reporters asked questions about it, the State Dept chimed in and the story was in the news a lot.

    There has been no updates about Gershkovich by Biden, KJP or the State Dept. Surely, if anyone was working on it, Biden would want us to know about it, especially in an election year.

    Also, while being held in Russia, Biden personally spoke to Grinder's wife and then invited her to the White House after her release. Biden spoke a lot about Grinder and I haven't heard him mention Gershkovich's name yet.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looking at the cases of Grinder and Evan Gershkovich, who got more press coverage and who did Biden speak more about? I did the search you requested, and the WH put out a short statement today, emphasis on short. Biden had more to say about George Floyd than Gershkovich or the murdered NYC cop and guess what they both have in common? And of course, I'm sure you don't believe that Biden wrote that statement himself, he probably doesn't even know he made it.
     
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    Here’s a few articles where Biden mentioned his name. Simple internet search is all it took. I suspect you stayed away from that for a reason. That reason being hyper-partisanship. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Mar 29, 2024
    https://apnews.com/article/biden-de...ovich-russia-18606d89c841c79a05c7eff785cfb3e5


    From Dec 2023
    https://www.wsj.com/world/biden-say...-push-to-secure-gershkovichs-release-c3dd859c

    Dec 5, 2023
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/politics/state-department-whelan-gershkovich-proposal/index.html

    Apr 30, 2023
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ed-journalist-biden-courage-ukraine-rcna82131

    from Mar 31, 2023
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...iden-calls-on-russia-to-release-us-journalist
     
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    I think you would admit the Griner coverage by the media, statements by Biden and questions to the WH press secretary overwhelmingly favored Griner and not Evan.
     
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    I don't keep score of these things. The fact that you thought Biden hasn't mentioned Evan tells me you're only interested in being hyper-partisan. Enjoy.
     
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    When Biden ran for office he promised me he would unite and heal the country. But have you noticed that during the few times he speaks he doesn't say how he's going to help people like me. Instead, he talks about how he's going to help POC, illegals, LGB and trannies. When it came to getting an American out of Russia, who did he help? The LGB POC.
     
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    I don’t keep track of who Biden talks about helping, mainly because I don’t need or rely on help from any president like you obviously do.
    What is a person like you? What help are you in need of?
     
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    Have you forgotten Paul Whelan? Wasn't he a white guy?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like I said, Biden constantly talks about helping specific people yet he never talks about helping people like me. When I say people like me, I’m talking about straight white men. For some reason he always leaves that group out.
     
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    Here’s another theory. Russia is more willing to turn over someone charged with a drug crime than espionage.
     
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    And what help is it that you need?
     
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    That's a theory, but the truth is Russia will hold hostages for money and political advantage and come up whatever phoney charges might look reasonable. To say Griner, with her history of anti-government statements, was "a spy" would have been a stretch. "Pot head" was an easier label for the gullible to accept.
     
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    It isn't up to Biden, it's up to Putin. Biden was quickly able to make a deal (a bad one, imo) for Griner's release, due to the nature of her "crime." Gershkovich was charged with espionage. Putin is not as willing to let him go.
     
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    I am eternally grateful that most people aren't so cynical. See #24 above. You are all barking at the wrong cat.
     
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