So illegals do not vote, Huh?

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  1. JDliberal

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    Cite the Harvard study and I was referring to the study posted by the OP.
     
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    It is not about personal preference. It is properly representing the findings of the study. Research requires precision, and sloppy referencing of a study is wrong to do. Discuss the findings, not what you believe in your head.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    OK then let's go with foreign nationals voting illegally. That is what this study shows is occurring correct?
     
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    Absolutely, correct.
     
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    Yes, but the study is clearly botched, being it relied on self-reporting by clicking boxes on a long web survey. A significant number of people are going to screw up the answers on such a poll. All you've shown is that some people don't read well, or that they were careless.
     
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    All I've shown is foreign nationals voting illegally is the more proper term to use.
     
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    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...y-three-branches-federal-government/94636286/
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    • Between 2001 and 2007, Republicans controlled at certain points all three branches while President George W. Bush occupied the White House. GOP control was interrupted between 2001 and 2003, as the Senate majority flipped to the Democrats as one senator switched his party affiliation, one senator died, and when the 2002 midterm elections shifted control of the upper chamber.''


    And the Republicans stacked the Supreme Court with their party members during the years they occupied the White House. As I noted previously, many of those Dems were nothing more than DINOs.
     
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    WMD removal is not done by the US Army but by the IAEA as part of its mandate under the UN.
     
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    and de-stabilized the entire region and left it in a bigger mess while Halliburton profited
     
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    The Harvard study has been posted numerous times in numerous threads. We seem to have this same very discussion with Democrats and the left at least once a month if not more. I don't know where you have been but I am tired of reposting the study so why don't you do a google search or look back at the many threads on the possibility of illegals voting. While you're at it check out the thread where we posted evidence 5,000+ illegals voted in West Virginia I think it was.

    I know you were referring to the OP's study. I'm just tired of everyone trying to say illegals do not vote when they do and the evidence has been posted here on multiple threads.
     
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    Yes getting us through that recession in 2000/2001 amd into a strong 52 month growth period and then Democrats from 2007 to 2011 total control of Congress. 4 years. Of the government majority control 2007 to 2009 then total control till 2011 and majority control till 2015, that's 14 years. Thats' briefly? And those are all the worst economic years since the great depression.
     
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    It was already destablized and was going ti get more so once the sanctions were lifted and Saddam rearmed himself and of course the company that provide HUGE logistic support takong care of the troops made a profit why wouldn't they?

    The fact remains Bush inherited the US policy that Saddam could not remain in power he didn't create it.
     
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    No it wasn't. The IAEA only dealt with nuclear material. UNSCOM was the UN inspection agency tbat was in the process of tracking down the WMD and materials and equipment to to produce them and were doing so when saddam kicked them out. After he was removed the ISG along with the US military serached for and found the proscribed materials he had hidden away so he could quickly rearm once the sanctions had been lifted andnjnspections ended.
     
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    The following clearly proves that this was the job of the UN, not the US army:


    https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_10/iraqspecialoct02


    And, as I have previously proven, Saddam complied contrary to the lies of the pro war far right and those of traitor Bush.
     
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    You said the International Atomic Energy Commission. They were simply dealing with the nuclear materials not the chemical and biological. It was UNSCOM that had cataloged his WMD and were in the process of finding them and destroying them when they were kicked of Iraq during Clinton's term. They went back in before he was removed and reported back Saddam was still not cooperating so he was removed along with his government. Then it was the Iraqi Surevy Group ISG along with the US military that investigated what he had been up to and determined that while the WMD UNSCOM had been destroying and had been hidden from inspectors and he stocked up on the necessary materials, all proscribed and unreported, to quickly rearm himself after the sanctions had been lifted and inspections ended.


    And he was totally in non-compliance thus what we found once he was removed. Even Blix stated that he was still not full cooperating with inspections after his last, this is it, we really mean it this time, see the red line, don't call our bluff again.

    Note that your cite is pre invasion and clearly lays out how much of his chemical and biological WMD had not been accounted for.
     
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    The link CLEARLY shows this is the work of international bodies, not the US army which is the point I've made all along. Blix came out with his report just prior to terrorist Bush's imperialistic invasion which you seem hell bent on defending when you know d.a.m.n well was a criminal and unsupportable act of treason.
     
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    As opposed to ypur claiming it was just the IAEA and your cite is pre-2003. After he was removed it was a US agency and the US military. And you d.a.m.n. know what I know and don't try to pawn off you fallacious beliefs on me. It was Blix who told the UN Saddam was still not cooperating and whst we found after he was remoged made UNSCOM look like the Keystone Cops.
     
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    Sure, blame anyone otyher than those that caused the mess in the first place. A typical democrat move,
     
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    Except when the deluded right wingers scream BLAME CLINTON, BLAME OBAMA, BLAME THE NEWS MEDIA. When that happens it's perfectly ok.
     
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    It was Blix who said there were no WMD and even wrote a book on it. Had your hero traitor Bush only bothered to listen, thousands of American soldiers lives would have been spared.

    NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.
     
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    Yes, because it is the truth.
     
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    No, no such evidence has ever been presented. This thread certainly didn't do so.

    I'm just tired of conservatives faking such stories over and over, so that they justify their anti-democracy thug tactics, where they make it as difficult as possible for American citizens of the "wrong" ethnicity to vote. Republicans can't win unless they prevent legal voters from voting, so that's their master plan.
     
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    Yes there has been such evidence. There is even a thread titled 5,500+ illegals voted in Virginia LOL with evidence posted in the thread.
    The Harvard study where 13% of all illegals in the study admitted they voted has been posted on this site numerous times.
    Obviously you are not on here much or you would have seen the evidence. Let me refresh your memory for you.....

    This site shows how just how easy it is for illegals to vote and even says 12 states allow them to do it:
    http://www.fairus.org/issue/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-u-s-elections

    Now it is easy to vote with only a driver's license needed for identification. Don't forget California has more than 15 million Latino's living there. https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state

    Here is the thread you missed here at PF. The title should stand out to you:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...discovered-on-voter-rolls-in-virginia.506631/

    More than 5,000 illegals were discovered in Virginia and they voted illegally.
    Even in Ohio illegals have voted:
    http://www.capoliticalreview.com/ca...d-vote-in-november-only-question-is-how-many/

    http://aun-tv.com/2014/11/harvard-s...many-elections-6-4-of-illegals-voted-in-2008/
    There is a Harvard study that shows more then 5 million illegals may have voted in the 2008 elections for Obama. The one I like shows 13% of illegals may have voted. I can't find that exact study. Google is being crazy but that study has been posted on here several times.

    You and I both know it does happen so quit trying to make it look like we are lying.
     
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    Let's not forget in a video that you can find online Obama told a Latino actress dreamers can vote and he was referring to illegals.







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    It was Blix and his team who were made total fools of by Saddam and failed to find what the ISG and the military found adter we removed him. And Bliz was in no position to make a claim that there were no WMD. All he could claim was they didn't find any and being as inept as they were that is not surprising. And Blix was was not part of the IAEA.

    The fact remained as long as Saddam was in power he remained a reckless and determined WMD threat.
     
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