so, in light of the sandy hook shooting

This is rich coming from a woman that would deny a persons rights to defend themselves with a firearm from an armed aggressor.

 

How do you not afford it, how many millions will paid out by one shooting? They are our children, this should be a high priority.

Gun control as you have it downunder will not work here, a different mindset. Plus the guns are already out there and will not be given up, 200 years too late.

 

Funny, she advocates for gun control here, but it did not work over there.
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Notice the rates before and after '96 when they banned and confiscated over 600,000 firearms. When you start to see a reduction in the rates 10 years after, but you can't contribute that to gun control because the rest of the civilized world has and is seeing the drops in there murder rates at the same exact time, especially in places with little to no gun control.

 

It worked better there than it ever would here, they never truely had the same sort of gun culture as the USA, would never work here.

 

Where have I ever said that??

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Where have I ever said that??

 

Do you not think we had a lot of illegal guns before 1996?

But I am totally amused at how many have ASSUMED (actually ASS U ME) that I am advocating revocation of guns - where have I stated WHAT I am specifically advocating in relation to guns?

because you are going to be surprised

VERY VERY surprised

But this is not about ONE incident - people who say that have not really LOOKED at the statistics - 30,000 people men, women and children PER YEAR. In some states the rate has surpassed the motor vehicle accident rate

And for the last 40 odd years America has led the world in research into motor vehicle safety - but where is the research into how to make guns safer?

 

your life is filled with what-ifs....................gawd that must be terrifying

 

I doubt you had anywhere near the numbers the US has and would have, populations and cultures are far different.
My guess is you want more strict laws on ownership, banning of Assault Type weapons and magazines over 10 rounds and the number of guns someone can own without some special permit, is that about it, if not, please explain your stand.

 

Before I do I have to ask - why is the death toll acceptable to you? I gather from your reply that it is - I just have to ask why such a high mortality is acceptable? We have not even included the firearm INJURY rate - which is larger yet again and represents a huge drain on health care - why is this acceptable?

 

Taking away the guns won't lower the mortality rate, it hasn't anywhere else it was implied.

 

It is not a good number, that I agree, but neither are auto accident death numbers, but the answer is not to ban autos. Better education on the subject, and a crackdown on criminals with guns and extremely stiff sentencing for those that use guns in the act of committing a crime are a start. Thing is Americans will not give up their handguns, and that is the tool most often used to wound and kill others so the idea of banning them simply is not an option here and I do not blame them. So while the numbers are not good and there are some things that can be done to help reduce those numbers, the unfortunate fact is that a certain level of death by gun will always be with us, it is the cost of living in America.

 

She wishes to see all guns taken away, for some reason she thinks it will work here, although it has never worked anywhere else.

 

***BINGO***

The response to the road toll was to make people more responsible through legislation - and it worked. There was also an effort to make cars safer - again that worked.

So where is the equivalent for guns?

The key word here is RESPONSIBILITY

Keep guns available but increase personal responsibility - you want to own one - fine but you are responsible for that. That means registering sales. That means ensuring the person you are selling the gun to has passed background checks. That means keeping it in a gun safe so children cannot get to it - EVER

Have you SEEN your child death rate?

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm

What price the lives of children??

 

Bowerbird,

Quite honestly I'm tired of your America bashing. No one is going to force you to come here. No one is going to force you to live here. I'm SURE Australia is a utopia and you'll never want to leave anyway.

Leave the United States of America alone.

 

cars, guns, household poisons........when you get to the meat of the problem, education has shown to work better than elimination. By your own admission, gun education will work better than banning. But that still won't stop deaths in any of these categories. There will still be deaths and injuries. Education will probably go further than threats and cooercion