So Muslims do believe in the divinity of Christ

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  1. MisLed

    MisLed New Member

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    not very dam likely. When you have a 'religion' that can't even answer direct questions with the scripture except with obfuscation then there's a problem. Another problem i see is that US atheists aren't interested in holding muslim feet to the fire. only christian. Now why would that be do you suppose? I have a pretty good idea but i won't tell ya.
     
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    any Muslims that tries to say were a Muslim nation, or tries to get their Sharia law hung up on a court room wall, you bet the "Atheists" and get this "Christians" will both be there to slap them back into reality

    were a nation of religious freedoms for all religions and beliefs... well except for the peyote religion, we only allow Indians to practice that one
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Which version of the Koran are you using? I don't see where it says Jesus will die in 4:157. It says that he wasn't crucified because Allah deceived people into believing something that wasn't true (that Jesus had been crucified when he hadn't been).

    Based on the evidence both God in the Bible and Allah in the Koran get their kicks deceiving people. So how can anyone trust them when they are always pulling practical jokes?
     
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    still you don't get it but i'm not surprised. It's your own doing. THE one true God of Abraham does not deceive. He is the same, then and now. allah, not so much. I understand muslims can change scripture to suit whatever. God admonishes people not to leave anything out, not to add anything, not to deceive OTHERs. Which you do, wyrd. really, you make me fear for you cause if you're wrong.....there's gonna be hell to pay. really.
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good luck trying to get the resident Muslims here to answer such a direct question.
     
  6. Fatihah

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    Response: The verse was actually 19:33.

    There are no practical jokes in the Qur'an either.
     
  7. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sura 19:33 only says he will be raised to heaven one time. Even though According to you, Jesus will be raised to Heaven Multiple times. Where in the Quran does it say Jesus will be raised to Heaven multiple times?

    Also,the Quran is perfect, why the specific chronological order? Blessed was I on the day I was born, and blessed I shall be on the day of my death and on the day I shall be raised to life.'

    Death is second on the list, even though he goes to heaven before he dies.
     
  8. Ivan88

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    [video=youtube;_Jsku1CTozM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jsku1CTozM&feature=relmfu[/video]

    Scene of Christ's speaking as a babe in Iranian TV serial on Saint Mary. However the English dubbed version is diluted significantly.

    Scene of Christ's Birth when Mary is sent to Jerusalem. "Oh Mary, congratulations on the Advent of the Word of God." Birth of Jesus
    [video=youtube;9JzBi2GmTok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JzBi2GmTok&feature=relmfu[/video]

    Fuller better version with Englsih subtitles:
    [video=youtube;48UPtECW6Hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48UPtECW6Hs[/video]

    Real Muslims submit to Christ as King of kings, and Savior of mankind. Muhammed did. But, after Muhammed was poisoned by the Talmudists, they took over and took Christ out of Islam. They then proceeded to make Islam into a weapon against Christians.

    And, here we are today, with the Judaized Muslims seeking to conquer Syria as the keystone to world conquest.
     
  9. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you disprove Christ you disprove not only Christianity but Islam as well. That's one thing I don't get about rabid antichristians(those against christianity),is that Islam is based upon the same Principles. The same Jesus, that was alive around 40BC to 40AD, and that he performed miracles. But yet they focus all their energy on fighting Christianity.

    Now let''s go into Islamic afterlife, 2 angels ask you who your prophet was. Jesus was not only a prophet, but was taken to heaven, and will come again in the End times to Judge all mankind. If Jesus was just a prophet then why couldn't the correct answer be Jesus?
     
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    Response: No where was it stated that Jesus will go to heaven multiple times. Furthermore, verse 19:33 clearly states that Jesus will die.
     
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    Because, Islam was taken over by the Talmudists and turned into a weapon against Christians and true Muslims.

    When Ali faced the fortress of Khyabar, Muhammed said, "someone must destroy this fortress. Otherwise, from this strong fortress, they will devise plots to destroy the truth and ignite the fire of strife."

    Islam was small at this time, but the people of Khaybar & Mecca collaborate in planning riots and strife among Muslims.

    The great Prophet always gave the people of Khyabar a chance,
    except at times when they shut the door on compromise with their continuous treachery and scheming.

    The events of Khyabar serve as a sacred lesson to those who doubt the distinction between truth and falsehood.
    From Iranian TV Series Â’40 SOLDIERSÂ’, THE BATTLE OF KHYABAR English subtitles
    [video=youtube;tXScDocR_ME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXScDocR_ME&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Hence why I'm asking you why do you think Jesus will go to heaven multiple times?
     
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    Response: Hence, why I just stated that no one stated that Jesus will go to heaven multiple times.
     
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    How do you know Allah won't play another switch?
     
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    As Muslims, we do not believe Jesus (pbuh) has died yet. Rather, that he is alive in Heaven.

    And that he will return.

    This does not make him immortal or anything like that.

    We believe Jesus (pbub) will return and he will kill the anti-Christ. He will speak to Christians and tell them that Islam is a true religion. And we believe God will ask Jesua (pbuh) if he told his people to worship him as god. And Jesus (pbuh) will deny this.

    After Jesus' (pbuh) second coming, and he kills al-Dajjal - who is the anti-Christ in Islam - he will die a natural death and return to Heaven.

    He is not divine in any other sense other than he is a Prophet of Allah SWT. Like those before him. His Virgin Birth from Mary (pbuh) was a sign/miracle from Allah SWT to prove Jesus' (pbuh) Prophet hood to the people.
     

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