So now impeachment?

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    Standard Rightwing "Plan B" for when they don't like an election result.


    No surprise....gives the ditto-heads and Fox Newsers something to do with their time instead of just whining.
     
  2. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Having worked on large military contracts throughout my career the "Indemnification" clause exists in all of these contracts. Our government often, through it's actions, causes an unnecessary expense to it's vendors and the contract ensures that the supplier isn't stuck with the bill for the actions of the government that cause it to incur a loss.

    For example, the Congress slowed production on the B-2 program when I was employed on it which increased the cost of the aircraft. The government was required by the contract to compensate Northrop because of the schedule delay imposed by the Congress. A billion dollars worth of tooling and facilities cannot simply be put "on hold" without incurring a huge cost to the supplier and the government is responsible for compensation under contract for that slow-down or idling of the production of the product.

    The same is true related to the remote possibility of "sequestration" because it is the responsibility of Congress to see that this doesn't happen. Congress has a Constitutional responsibility to submit a budget to the White House and it's already late in fulfilling this responsibility. If "sequestration" does occur and Congress has not submitted a budget to the White House then Congress, not the President, is Constitutionally responsible.

    Perhaps we should be calling for the impeachment of Congress because Congress is where the problems really are.
    Congress is failing in it's Constitutional reponsibilities and not the White House right now.
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Except it would be no different had this happened two years from now. Your argument is specious but then you have no defense for the actions and lack thereof by this administration.
     
  4. mikezila

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    BO's Kill List.
     
  5. Really People?

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    That's not much of an elaboration, but, I assume you're referring to the terrorists that have been killed in the ME...

    Sounds good to me...
     
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    I had never read that article before, but, your claim that Obama is plotting to kill a 17 y/o is dishonest at best...

    It explicitly states in the article that this list is a kill or capture list, although, they made sure to say that the capture part is largely theoretical, with no proof of that, of course...

    However, let's examine this angle about the 17 y/o's...

    If they are actually committing terrorist acts, and, are, in fact, a legitimate threat, what do you do, esp. if you can't capture them?

    On this very forum, there are posters who felt the death of another 17 y/o was legitimized because the individual presented a threat...

    How is this different than this alleged 'kill list' (I use quotes because the article did so, since, it's obviously not actually called that)?

    And, even, Obama's direct quote from the article doesn't show him "plotting the murder of a 17 y/o girl...

    No plots to kill 17 y/o girls there...

    Just a realization that the fact that al Qaeda is willing to use children puts you in a whole different playing field...
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    No- he is just saying what is obvious to everyone. If this was anything but a clearly political attempt to deny the election, you and your ilk would be calling for investigations- not impeachment.

    Standard Rightwing "Plan B" for when they don't like an election result.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The only politics that is involved in this is from the Obama administration, they put his reelection over everything and now they are trying to cover it up and trying to make it political on those who seek the truth and want to hold those involved responsible and that doesn't mean someone just stands in front of a camera and "takes responsibility" the way the left likes to do it, without consequences.

    That Obama HIMSELF has not found out EXACTLY what happened within his administration at the highest level and has done nothing to rectify the situation is just blaring.

    And no one is calling for impeachment. We are pointing out the obvious, you on the left are denying that this could not end up in such manner and refuse to acknowledge the facts and the conflicting stories and the attempts to dodge as in sending Clinton out of the country and today saying she will not testify until December, that is outrageous and just the old left wing tactic of dragging it out and then we will here it is just old news and no one cares.

    This ain't going away any time soon. The question is whose head will roll and will it be by firing, resignation or impeachment.
     
  10. gmb92

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    Looks to me like right-wingers are beginning to progress through the 5 stages of grief. Is the Bargaining stage? Surely there must be some way to remove President Obama from their lives...I would recommend turning off Faux News for starters.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Looks to me like the left-wingers cannot grasp the seriousness of this situation else would rather act ignorant in order to keep Obama and/or members of his administration in office. I would recommend you watch Fox News so you can educate yourself on the matter.
     
  12. SFJEFF

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    Fox news and education don't belong in the same sentence.

    At least Congress grasps the concept that you investigate before you announce the lynching.
     
  13. k995

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    Someone is clearly living in the republican bubble :lol:


    Yes I hope republicans try to impeach obama and make a complete fool of themselves. Republicans always are at its worst when they just do what comes naturally to them.
     
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    It's amazing how Republican's all of a sudden care so much about American's dying in the Middle East. It's also actually pretty disgusting how they are using these four individuals for political purposes. Disgraceful!!
     
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    Ok look. Stop wasting time on stuff that's not going to happen. The Republicans in the House can report bills of impeachment all day every day and the Democrat controlled Senate can refuse to try them. If Obama gets any appointments to the Supreme Court before the midterms, you can kiss any chance of them intervening goodbye, unless it's Ginsberg or Bryer.

    It's a (*)(*)(*)(*) blind alley and a time and effort wasting sidebar. STOP WASTING MY (*)(*)(*)(*) TIME ON THIS CRAP!!!!
     
  16. Justin Valuable

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    No one on Fox is calling for an impeachment right now. Stop lying. But Fox is doing the best job of actually reporting on this scandal unlike the other networks who kiss Obama's ass like subjects would to a dictator. Let's see if this jerk will have the courage to testify before congress.
     
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    What scandal?
     
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    Take the blinders off.
     
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    Lol, yea the FOX-championed scandal, which asserts the President somehow knew this was a terrorist attack from the start, even though all the evidence points to the intelligence community thinking it rose from spontaneous protests. It's funny, because during the whole WMD fiasco, you were all saying Bush was just acting on the intelligence he had, and we shouldn't pit the blame on him. Which was a greater flub, in your view? Falsely attributing a violent attack against a consulate to a spontaneous protest, or taking the US into war for no (*)(*)(*)(*) good reason?
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Platitudes are all you are left with I see, go watch their previous reporting and get up to speed.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    So you hope that Obama was the one who denied assistance and refused to protect our Ambassador and those brave SEALS, you hope it is Obama who told his staff to perpitrate a lie to the American people and withhold the truth so he could get reelected? And they you be making themselves foolish if they did?
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    What's not going to happen, they got rid of Petreaus thinking he then wouldn't testify. They sent Hillary running out of country, and now say she may testify sometime in December. Obama has STILL not told us what he knew and when he knew it. They are already trying to stonewall Congress.

    SCOTUS would have nothing to do with it.

    Who's point a gun to your head forcing you to participate. If you don't want to discuss the most compelling political issue of the day, the one that may very well end up defining the Obama Presidency, then go away and don't waste our time.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    And they are so blind..................
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    The CIA people on the ground stated from the get-go it was a terrorist attack. There was no evidence this was a spontaneous protest. The Ambassador had warned of an impending attack for months. They HAD BEEN ATTACK TWICE in the previous months by terrorist.

    You would know that if you watched FOX.
     
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    The sour grapes are strong in their thread.
     

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