so, what have we got on the 2nd amassment's newest poster boy

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Nah, it stems from the several pictures of our would be trumpets in makeup and glitter. This is the second one of these (Ulvalde TX) in a month.
     
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    Heads up. They don't know what most of the words they use as "dog whistles" for other haters mean.
     
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    Unless there has been something new the Ulvalde shooter was not trans. That was proven days after the shooting. You may want to read this:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/61607042
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Who knew you could wear a cheerleader outfit have it publicly available on the inter webs,and suddenly, he's not "trans" because, he did a bad bad thing.....yeah. BBC, another defender of the faith for sure.
     
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    All of the shooting we see in the news is traumatizing but what I am finding even worse is on places like this forum where people hold their breath waiting for the identity of the shooter to be released hoping they will fall under the category of the "other side". Whether they are a Trump supporter, black, immigrant, white supremacist all that matters is the shooter is part of team other guy.

    The bottom line is people that shoot innocent people are either mentally ill or evil or both. The political party they vote for is meaningless. You are not immune to mental illness or evil is you are a Republican or a Democrat. This very tribalism is what is causing the division in this country.
     
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    Yes, but it's the psychology behind it all.

    Here's an example unrelated to politics so it's doesn't appear divisive. When I was a kid, kids were just sent outside to play all day and had to come in when the street lights came on. All the adults looked after all us kids. It's certainly not that kind of climate today.

    Anyway, there was a family in the last house on the block and the wife's parents lived a few doors down. One day, the family went to the lake to fish and one of the daughters drowned and died. I think she was around our ages - 6-7 range.

    One day, the mother told someone unfamiliar with the family and accident at the lake. The woman freaked out. She kept asking all kinds of questions like "But you forgot to put on her life vest?" or "But you turned away and did something and was distracted?" or "Why didn't you teach her to swim?" etc.

    The woman wasn't trying to be insensitive. Psychologically, it was *too painful* for her to hear that the family lost a young child through no fault of their own. If she could "frame" it within the context of their human error, she didn't have to face the reality that sometimes bad stuff happens and it's nobody's fault. That's easier to process.

    We see this in cases of rape, robberies, etc.. People will try to force their brains to assess blame somewhere so they don't have to process that life is hard and their are criminals just lurking waiting to hurt people. If the "woman" had on skimpy clothes or flirted with the guy or consented but called it rape or the guy was flashing some cash and got approached on his walk home makes the "bad" stick with the individual versus the "bad" being a universal possibility for anyone.

    We see this in the current arguments about teaching tolerance. They commandeered the word "groomer" and are using it incorrectly. But, look at that relative to what I've written here. If ALL teachers are groomers and bad, then they don't have to process that groomers and pedophiles hide in plain sight and you can't pick them out relative to their race, religion, sexuality or job title. That's a tough pill to swallow and it's that willful ignorance that makes that specific very, very dangerous. It actually helps the predators and I may not be around to see it but I'm guessing the next couple of generations to reach adulthood will come out with their own abuse anecdotes and the culprits will be from all walks of life and occupations. It's very dangerous to target teachers that way. It's downright evil.

    So, outside of straight up bigotry and ignorance, the core psychological process is they need for the "bad" to be all on the "other side" no matter what that is.

    It's the exact same process behind why Trump's tactics work so well. He taps on their inner need to have someone to blame and they run with it. He is also using projection which means lobbing his personal flaws onto someone else. That's why he's not a strong leader. He doesn't know how to "hear" that he was fired. He doesn't know how to hear that he's wrong or made a mistake or the other dumbass reasons he's fired people around him. For him, it's easier to accept that millions of people skulked around in the middle of the night and planted millions of fake ballots. The problem with that is there is no logical way to explain how he or anybody outside a polling place knows (or should know) what is on the ballot inside the envelope. Just the facts that he states that means a conflict of interest. But, the people that support him skip over that part and accept that what he said is true (and, from the few things they've argued, they don't seem well-versed in how the election process works from the technical end (which is why Trump can lie straight to their faces and make them believe it). He lied straight to the faces of the people at the Capitol riot and none of them paused for two seconds to determine for themselves if what he said about Pence was correct. He continues to lie straight to their faces and the people that like "pretty lies" over "ugly truths" need that.

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    The mug shots of all these "shooters" makes them look like brothers. Where is the angry black kid?
     
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    I can. Caitlyn Jenner.

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    PAUSE TO REFLECT: Federal judge halts Biden’s Title IX changes.

    "Due to Judge Atchley’s ruling, states are free to bar biological men from competing in women’s athletics."

    Jenner says having men compete against women is nuts and she will not compete as a woman in golf, she competes with the men, explaining; "Look at my hands." "Look at my frame." "It wouldn't be fair."
     
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    True, but the weekend shootings in Chicago are mostly black on black. They are not staged, they are real.

    In contrast, many if not most of the school shootings, and shootings such as Pulse and Las Vegas were staged false flags meant to fool an easily fooled public.
     
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    Unfortunately, many in positions of public policy think that if we deprive the law abiding people of weapons, the lunatics will become sane and sensible.
    If we were as obsessed with keeping track of and treating such people are we with the idea that gun control would solve the problem- we could solve the problem.
    Right now, the philosophy is much like believing that arresting the car involved will prevent future drunk driving deaths.
     
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