Socialist, Rep John Conyers Offers Reparations Bill every Congressional Session

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  1. Trinnity

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    We get it. Collectivism is trying to take over America and collectivism is always a country killer. We'll continue to fight it.
     
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    No one said reparations are socialism.

    I can't help it if you guys on the left don't get the similarity between the promise of gimmees via reparations and the promise of gimmees via socialism. Reparations aren't socialism, but reparations and socialism both have the appeal of giving something to people that they didn't earn and that is not owed to them. The free lunch. The free ride. NOTHING in life is free. If you got it free, someone else paid for it.

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    Twisting meanings around is something lefties love to do. It won't work with me and I won't let it pass. I'll call you all on it every time. :flagus:
     
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    All are totalitarian govts.
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  4. Think for myself

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    But they are not all totalitarian governments.

    Communism is an economic system of communal ownership. It has nothing to do with totalitarianism. There is nothing in communism to suggest there would be a regime with absolute control over everything, which is essential in totalitarianism.
     
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    Who do you think you're kidding? In theory it's communal ownership. In practice it's totalitarian.

    Are you under the delusion it can ever be a benign system in practice? LOL
     
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    I am not aware of any country ever having a true form of communism.

    It certainly was not the USSR. They had two very distinct classes, the proletariat and the ruling class.

    It certainly is not China. They have nothing approaching communism. The government owns everything and retains all the wealth.

    It is not North Korea.

    It is not Cuba.
     
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    Educate yourselves:

    Communism vs Totalitarianism

    Communism and totalitarianism stands apart in their political and economic ideologies. Some people may link communism to totalitarianism but the fact is that they two are different in every aspect.

    Totalitarianism is a term that means total control. But in communism there is no total control. While the society is all-powerful in communism, it is the state that is powerful in Totalitarianism.


    Read more: Difference Between Communism and Totalitarianism | Difference Between | Communism vs Totalitarianism http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...-communism-and-totalitarianism/#ixzz1uDi0jTjB
     
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    Socialists and progressives are the same thing in America. They're moving us toward as much govt control as possible. Parsing words and meaning is just a distraction from what's going on. Not fooled and not going along with it.
     
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    Don't change things now. We're talking about socialists and reparations, (like the reparations Israel gets from Germany - (*)(*)(*)(*) socialist Israeli's, right???).
     
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    So why do we not just call them "progressives"? Why does Tom Tancredo's claims need to dramatize and make utterly false claims like saying they are members of the "Socialist Caucus", which does not even exist. Why not lead by example and just call them progressives?



    Sorry, but I for one am certainly not buying the claim that the two things are the same. They are not. They are not even close. Socialism is an economic system where as some of the production and distribution is either collective or government own. Progressivism is the opposite of conservatism. It simply means things go forward.
     
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    Conyers and Waters represent a mindset in the dem party that they'll never run out of taxpayer money to promise for votes. To say it's unethical is an understatement.

    They're leeches; parasites on the taxpayers. They've bought votes in their districts for decades and it's what they do for a living. Sick, really sick.
     
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    Its funny because in this thread so far you've claimed there isn't any country that practices true socialism yet you never define what that is to you and now you claim socialism and progressive are not the same yet you fail to describe progressive.

    Since you just came off claiming there is such a thing as "true" form yet you generalize progressive as the opposite of conservatism without defining either can you explain why you generalize one thing yet demand a "true" form of another?
     
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    Communism and socialism are cousins with socialism leading people down the path to communism. The European welfare system and socialism share several broad characteristics. Reparations are not socialism because only a few benefit from it, so there you are correct. Our education system would function if parents quit dicking around and actually helped their children, however many of them also dicked around in school themselves...that's not the system that doesn't work, it's generations of lazy parenting. Note that the achievers normally come from middle class to upper class; on rare occasions from lower or those in poverty.

    Reparations however are wonderful if the parties involved are all "alive". If they are dead, it's no longer reparations, but theft. This congressman is a lackey for lazy people who, once again, want someone to give them something for nothing, for they never suffered from slavery...their ancestors did. If that's the argument, then being descended from Scotch/Irish, England owes me millions, but you know as well as I do that can't happen. So this man keeps being re-elected because his constituency feel they can get rich without actually working for it. Typical liberal concept.
     
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    Reparations for what? I believe anyone who was a slave in America should be paid. But, they would be over 115 years old today. My relatives came to the US in 1900. We had nothing to do with slavery nor Native American dealings. We should NOT be held accountable for the actions of others.
     
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    Maybe you call them "progressives", I just call them (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s!
     
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    I'd have to disagree that the two are 'not remotely related'. You can't have communism without some measure of totalitarianism.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/totalitarian
     
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    You can disagree all you like. That still does not make them remotely related.
     
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    Back to the original topic:

    Does anyone believe people or industries owe certain or all black people reparations for slave-dirty-deeds-done-dirt-cheap from back in another era? Would you support a John Conyers House bill to start funneling some of your tax monies back into the black community so as to right the emotional hardships of these oppressed black peope of today?
     
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    "Progressives" is simply the word the Democrats changed to when the word "liberal" became such a dirty word. It's nicer sounding, but it's still the same thing. They do not want to own up to being a liberal. It's not a popular thing to be called.
     

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