someone should create an anti gun policing force that gets rented by cities/states

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Sackeshi, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    The inability on the part of yourself to comprehend the grammatical meaning of the phrase "not absolute" is not the fault of myself.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Chief Justice Roberts I am sure has been pained knowing that the he is directly responsible for allowing the slaughter of our children in school, worshipers in their houses of worship, and people simply going out.

    I think he will reverse the 2010 ruling. Hopefully the last Conservative Justice with a conscience will flip
     
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    Nothing could be further from the truth that statement, the only person for a shooting is the person who pulls the trigger, anything else is deflecting from the reality of that fact.
     
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    In one ruling he made it so that the government had to prove the individual was a threat instead of the individual proving they are not a threat with a weapon.
     
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    And that is the way it should be, if a person is thought to be a threat, it should be proven beyond any reasonable doubt before any action can be taken against that individual.

    Anything less is subject to abuse.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    See things like this is why I need to get into my state legislature. So I can make it a crime of Negligent homicide for any law enforcement officer who refuses to remove a weapon from someone reported as being a threat who then kills someone.
     
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    Not going to happen, a LEO cannot remove a firearm based on an allegation, their must be a hearing and the threat must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before anyone is disarmed.

    Conversely lets say someone is disarmed and as a result cannot defend them self and is killed, should the LEO who removed that firearm then be charged with Negligent homicide?

    Remember you cannot just have it your anti-gun way rights matter, all rights matter.
     
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    That the courts are corrupt and act only as a rubber-stamp for government overreach over the rights of the people is a known fact. Your support of that fact, combined with your lies and hyperbole about anyone who doesn't march in lockstep with your nonsense obliterates your credibility and, believe me, I do NOT take you seriously one bit. "You're wrong", and there is nothing you post that doesn't qualify as "woo woo", so feel free to go perform anatomical impossibilities on yourself.

    Our rights are exactly that: RIGHTS. We are born with them, and the government has ZERO authority to infringe upon them. The government may be infringing upon them, and the sheeple may meekly accept it because they don't have the character or the backbone to stand up for themselves; but that doesn't make it right.

    Oh, the HYPOCRISY!!
     
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    INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Sound familiar? Or is this just one more thing you don't comprehend about the Constitution??
     
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    To the progressive/left that only applies to actual criminals and is not to be applied to folks those leftists dislike or distrust aka. the law abiding.
     
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    Your intellectual inflexibility shouldn't surprise me. You don't even know who you're talking to from one minute to the next.

    To Ban Guns.jpg
     
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    Because you don't know how to read a court case, you don't know what dicta is etc.

    Licensing requirements are not at issue in the Heller ruling. No one challenged them so they weren't before the Court to rule upon, something the Court takes great pains to point out in ridiculously plain language which you nevertheless cannot understand.
     
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    What of every school and mass shooting that occurred prior to the Heller and McDonald rulings? Did those simply not actually happen when there were no rulings pertaining to what the second amendment did and did not mean?
     
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    Such is the legal premise the united states was founded upon, and the legal premise that stretches back for the entire history of the united states. It is the cornerstone of the entire united states justice system.
     
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    Show the so-called "science" that is being denied, and how it is actually relevant to the discussion.
     
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    More School shootings happened after 2008 than before. That means in just 10-11 years we had more School shootings then the past 200 years combined.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    It clearly made them worse
     
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    Really, and you know that as a scientific fact? Cite a credible study concluding that.
     
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    And yet it is being admitted by yourself that school and mass shootings did indeed occur long prior to the Heller and McDonald rulings. Thus meaning those rulings did not actually cause these incidents to become possibilities that would not have otherwise existed had the cases never been heard.
     
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    No one denied it, they just started happening 10 fold faster rate
     
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    And yet the Heller and McDonald rulings played absolutely no part in such a development occurring. The two rulings did little overall to change any existing firearm-related restrictions throughout the united states, and those that were changed pertained exclusively to total handgun prohibitions in the city of Chicago and the district of columbia. It did not do anything to cause the school shootings in the state of Massachusetts, or the state of California, or the state of Maryland, or in any other state to be found in the united states, as none of their firearm-related restrictions were affected by the rulings.
     
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    With out those rulings after Sandyhook CT would have probably put a gun ban as strict as the one in the UK on the books but someone empowered federal judge would have struck it down.

    That is the damage that those ruling did, they empowered pro gun extremist judges to strike laws down.
     
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    You calling anyone an extremist is an absolute laugh riot.

    In this thread alone you have demanded a scheme to strip people of their 1st 2nd 4th 5th 14th and once you got down to brass tacks I'd expect also 3rd (of all things) amendment rights.
     
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    This only removes the 2nd amendment right. Come on you care more about kids than guns right?
     
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    I’m reading one right now.
     
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    Their lack of reference and believing they know it all is a dead giveaway.
     

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