Sotomayor: Labeling Illegal Immigrants Criminals Is Insulting

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  1. Strasser

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    Criminal illegal aliens commit numerous violations of Federal and state laws when they work here. Conveniently, the Supreme Court has decided it's okay for criminal illegals to commit Federal crimes. And people wonder why the Courts and the legal system are losing any credibility on any issue.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100524143157AALeXX0

    From the comments section at the link above:

    Social Security Act:

    https://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title02/0208.htm
     
  2. Ronstar

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    if all the illegal aliens dissapeared, the cost of our fruits and vegetables would tripple.
     
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    Oh please! There is a huge difference between going over the speed limit and illegally crossing the border. You are making an argument that all misdemeanors are the same. Ridiculous.
     
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    No it isn't. If you get caught with a CDS, you don't go to Federal court or jail.
     
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    Have you ever driven above the speed limit? CRIMINAL!!!!!!111

    The term "criminal" is typically reserved for the worst offenders, or repeat offenders.
     
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    What a cop out, go after businesses only because the government failed in its responsibilities to protect the border in the first place.
     
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    It has generally never been considered a "crime". Not everything in violation of a law is considered criminal.
     
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    Except unlike a thief an illegal immigrant is not actually hurting anyone.
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Seeing that it's the 1%'ers that import the illegal aliens as their slaves maybe they should be lambasted as well. The banks love giving the illegal aliens home loans and the "job creators" prefer hiring them rather than American citizens, especially black Americans.
     
  10. Liquid Reigns

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    You might want to give a link to that, because I'm not finding it.

    Yes, possession of a controlled substance is a federal crime. So you got one out of five right.
     
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    Hyperbole, that claim has been made and shown by UC Davis to be incorrect. Even if wages were to double for picking crops, the end cost is merely pennies to the consumer.
     
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    There is a difference between an infraction and a violation. EWI has always been considered a crime (violation), it is VO's (Visa Overstays) that are only considered infractions of immigration law.

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    Their act of illegal entry may not be, but in most cases where they use fraudulent documents, they most certainly due.
     
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    Black Americans are hurt the most by illegal immigration, but it's not the 1% importing them, they actually come of their own volition. Its not the Corporation that does the hiring, it is the HR Department of which has the same ethnicity working in it, they hire their own for cheap, and exploit them.
     
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    Justice Kennedy seems to disagree with you in the SB1070 case http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-182b5e1.pdf
     
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    Fair enough. Let's just call them "Law Breakers" or "Non respecting of the Law" or "lessor than felons" or, even "misdemeanants".

    But, don't continue to attempt to change the definition of law violation.
     
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    I have to smile at Justice Sotomayor's logic and reasoning. The sheer audacity of the statement is ridiculous. Surely anyone violating the law when caught would be insulted for being caught, because they then face deportation and may be denied lawful entrance to America in the future after spending all that money paying coyotes to smuggle them into the country.
    Definition of illegal: (adj.) Prohibited by law and/or official rules.
    Surely the Honorable Sotomayor knows the difference between Legal and Illegal.
     
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    Wow I didn't know all 20 million illegal immigrants worked on the farms.

    Fail.

    BTW, if that were to happen most people would start growing vegetables in their backyards again. It's one of the few things the common man has been doing for centuries.
     
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    @Sotomayor.......you are insulting........you are just supporting "your people" in their 'reconquista' of American land............
     
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    And it would be worth every penny.
     
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    So you think staying in this country illegally is the same as those? Really? Crossing the border illegally isn't a misdemeanor. Might as well add grand larceny, because someone who goes to the ER and doesn't pay is stealing $1000s from everyone elses pockets. Someone who sends their kids to school without paying any taxes to really cover the costs is also stealing $1000s. Obtaining a fake SS# certainly isn't a misdemeanor. Driving without a licence or insurance, which can't be obtained without ID is not a misdemeanor. Sneaking across the border and having children in order to stay is not only costing the country 100s of $1000s, but morally and ethically wrong. We can go on and on.
     
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    So it's not the act of entering the country that's harming people. But the fact that it's against the law.
     
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    Here are some stats on the numbers of workers needed to pick crops. It's a small fraction of the numbers of criminal illegal aliens in the U.S., and is very seasonal to boot. They're working other jobs the rest of the year. Also they pick less than half of the crops; the rest are harvested mechanically, and the crops currently hand-picked can largely be automated as well, and cheaper than by hand. Criminal illegal alien labor merely retards mechanization.

    http://www.cis.org/FarmMechanization-ImmigrationAlternative

    The vast majority of criminal illegal aliens are not picking crops, despite the hogwash propaganda.
     
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    A misdemeanor is a crime. That said, weed should be completely legal.
     
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    Labelling rapists as "rapists" is also insulting. We should start calling them Overly Persuasive/Insistent Violent Sex Distributors, or some such crap...
     

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