The caption reads: "Kids are being lied to, a STEM degree is a scam." "If you are in STEM, you will be competing with the hungriest, hardest working immigrants to get visas." "Coding is no longer necessary." An Asian man, appearing to be either Chinese or Vietnamese, who lives in California, talks in the video: "Look, I'm sorry you guys, but the STEM degree is a scam. As an ex-Google tech lead, and someone who's actually climbed that whole entire STEM degree ladder, to the very top... I mean, I went through the AP biology classes, AP chemistry, AP computer science, went to UC Berkeley studying computer science, linear algebra, calculus, useless Fourier transforms and matrices. How often do I use any of this in daily life? How often have I had to implement a binary search tree, or a quick sort? Never. It's an over-saturated field, at this point. And if you're in STEM, you're going to be in for the rat race of a lifetime, competing against the hardest working, hungriest immigrants in the world for their visas. And they need this more than you. They're willing to work harder for this than you, at lower pay, cheaper and worse conditions, because they need this. And so quiet frankly I think students are being lied to when we tell them to go into STEM. 'Do STEM because you parents want you to do STEM.' STEM may have worked in your parents generation, but today the landscape's just changed. Other people seem to be noticing this to, with a backlash against STEM. Someone notes here: 'There's a ton of indoctrination that typically goes into STEM degrees, which no one seems willing to admit.' ... Somehow everyone today seems to have been brainwashed into the STEM degree as the path to success. 'Hey, you got to get into robotics, you got to get into coding, you got to learn biology, get into matrix math, you got to learn your JavaScript and Java. ... Coding has advanced to a degree where we've got no-code solutions and coders are just obsoleting themselves by building all these solutions that anyone can just use nowadays. And then, in the lowest rungs of society, the bottom, say fifty percent ... It's essentially life of slavery, competing against the immigrants for their visas. And if you already have a visa, why are you even in this competition. It doesn't even make any sense anymore at that point. It's just a lot of hard work for nothing. And that's... that's you. You know when I was conducting interviews for FANG, at Google and Facebook, I would occasionally interview these immigrants who were just so smart, I mean they knew every lead code question, they could ace them just one after the other, perfect answers. And they would smoke any American, I mean they were brilliant candidates. America needs that kind of talent; we should bring in. But it's just, personally, I would not want to compete at that level. I mean I got better things to do than that, and maybe you should find something better to do as well. And even in the coding competitions, like the ACM competition -- I've competed in that before -- Americans just don't stand a chance, because we just don't want it enough. You would be a fool to compete on STEM alone. And then of course to make matters worse you have AI [artificial intelligence] and ChatGPT moving in on your job as well." video: #stem #codinglife #techlead #stemeducation | tech lead | TikTok - re-posted by kanejatiktok A longer version of the video can be found on YouTube: The STEM Degree SCAM: Why I Quit Coding. - posted by TechLead "Ex-Google / Meta tech lead, app entrepreneur, software engineer. If you're looking for help landing a job as a software engineer, resume critique, and mentorship, join me at: http://techinterviewpro.com/ http://coderpro.com/ " another related thread: U.S. tech giants hiring more foreign workers on H-1B visas (posted in Computers & Tech section of this forum, Apr 22, 2018 ) You can also see this video on YouTube: Lou Dobbs on Post Docs and PhDs being paid peanuts and exploited through H-1B visas
Oversaturated because of H1-B visa holders. Knock off that giveaway to corporations and they can hire Americans.
possibly related thread: There Are Limited Spots for Doctors in Medical Schools--and We're Giving Them Away to Foreigners (posted by Lil Mike in Health Care, March 25, 2023 ) 'There Are Limited Spots for Doctors in Medical Schools - and We're Giving Them Away to Foreigners' - Opinion Newsweek (magazine), by Kevin Lynn - Executive Director of The Institute for Sound Public Policy, Founder of U.S. Tech Workers ; March 22, 2023 Workers forced to train their replacements before being fired (posted in Immigration section, Jan 21, 2018 )
I recently took Management Information Systems (MIS) as a bachelor's degree that I completed at the end of 2023. I must say that I learned a lot more going to university than I would have learned on my own just studying willy-nilly. And I was exposed to more things than I could have found on my own. I would say that enrichment-wise a STEM degree is still worth it. Plus, you can prove that you have the brains for a STEM career, which now-a-days requires a bachelor's degree anyway just to get in.
China is not Turning Japanese https://asiatimes.com/2024/02/china-is-not-turning-japanese/ Japan, like the rest of the developed world, is now in replacement mode and, given the dwindling youth population, is forced to graduate students of ever-decreasing ability. China, in contrast, has not yet plateaued in enrolling students in higher education. From single-digit university enrollment rates at the turn of the century, in 2022 China enrolled 34% of its 18-year-old age cohort into four-year degree programs and 29% into junior colleges. If college enrollment plateaued today, China’s college-educated workforce will increase fourfold over the next 30 years. The proportion of Chinese students majoring in science and engineering at four-year universities was 41% in 2015 (the last year of reported data), more than twice Japan’s level. At the junior college tier, 43% of students were studying technical fields (and 13% in healthcare.) Lots of demographic and educational data contrasting the workforce development history of Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan and Singapore in the article. Part of Japan's problem is a failure to continue a high rate of STEM education. China still has considerable scope to develop its workforce. Korean STEM education is intense.
Despite all the noise, there aren't many STEM jobs available in the U.S.; it's just a scam to glut the tech markets with cheap labor and claiming 'shortages' is a lie used to apply for green cards to get indentured labor. Silly Con Valley is rife with this sort of labor racketeering. There is just a shortage of American idiots who will move to the Bay area for low wages and sleep in their cars.
