"SunCatcher" Solar Thermal Power Debut. This Isn't Photovoltaic [PV] Solar.

Here ya go mate.. just fired up a new station in the outback of Nevada.

An' if ya need a little more tucker for your outfit, I reckon you could order some from these blokes:

 

Tell that to the proponents of CFL's. besides, coal was the Democrats big idea of energy independence back in the 1970's and they pushed it hard with Jimmy Carter so the same folks should pay both.

 

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with your original post or the fact that the subject of your OP has had a major component go belly up. Try to stay on topic and not attempt to deflect please.

 

Topic worthy. Sorry. You are overruled.

 

Except at nightime, or when its cloudy...

 

Glad you think so, it's your thread. No matter how silly!

Do you plan on addressing Stirling going belly up on Suncatcher?

 

Of course not. SIlly never does...she just keeps posting the same old MS Paint graphics, the same old links, and the same old BS. She is a slightly-more-annoying version of a spambot.

 

Yep and then you have to fire up that coal fired or natural gas fire power generating plant that has been sitting there costing you an arm and a leg.

 

If you don't like mercury in your fish, don't eat fish that have ever been near limestone.

Limestone (and sandstone) has mercury in it.

 

Stirling Energy, the supplier of Suncatchers solar concentrating mirror systems is all done, finished, bankrupt, kaput! If these libs are allowed to have their way we will end up with a bunch of solar plants with no uniformity, built with out of production parts that will cost us a fortune to maintain and repair. I couldn't think of a plan with more built in stupidity.

 

Apparently, you seem to be suggesting that solar energy emerge with companies that will be in business for decades, using uniform parts and designs.

You seem to be calling for full government control of solar plant technology, and here I though you were a Free Marketeer!

Sounds like you would LOVE China, though.

When I was working on power plants, not a single nuclear plant designer on the plants I knew of survived to the full operation of the power plant.

One nuclear power plant I worked on NEVER even reliably produced power. A pure design disaster from Day One.

Why should solar be held to higher standards than all the other power generation schemes?

 

Well...anything else is an asinine waste of money. If Computer Companies can make standards for hardware configuration, can't solar companies?

Does the government have full control over computer hardware design and standards? That's just silly.

Try to control your proclivity to insult other posters personally.

I worked for a Security Company doing background investigations on Nuclear Engineers and Decontamination Techs in compliance with Title (tell me which one, you'd know if you really did) of the NRC Codes. That title covers employees like you said you were.

Really? Which one was that?

Higher standards? How about just some standards so they down run billions of taxpayers dollars down the the rabbit hole.

 

Thank you, I'm not the only one. She has said in the past she owned a ranch. No doubt in my mind she's trying to sell it to a solar company for whatever the crapola solar projects de jour. Dreams of retiring to someplace nice dancing in her head. That's never going to happen.

 

Yes because some reflective parabolic mirrors and a fluid tube running steam generators [for free after installation] is so VASTLY more expensive than mining uranium, coal or oil, refining those and burning them..along with their constant renewing costs and waste management/environmental costs..

..running the same steam generators...

You'd have to have flunked kindergarten math to buy the schills hooey here.

 

Actually - it looks a bit crap.

Solar thermal must have storage to make it practical.

This is the real deal:
http://www.tonopahsolar.com/

 

How much does just one parabolic mirror with rotational controls cost?

If the whole thing had been built BEFORE Stirling bellied up there would be 36,000 parabolic dishes with tons of moving parts needed to follow the sun without any supply of replacement maintenance parts. And that's just for one project. It doesn't take a kindergarten chalkboard and eraser to figure out that is a really stupid ass idea.

 

Depends on the design. If they designed circular tower-type solar thermal then they probably did go out of business. If they designed linear pipe-type closer to the reflective substrate then if they went under it was from improper management: not the viability of the ever-evolving R&D behind the inevitable solar thermal steam.

Let's ask a better question than that. How much does an entire array of parabolic mirror's with rotational controls cost as compared to the offset of not having to mine, refine, burn, mitigate and control waste with nuclear or coal over say ten years, let alone the ungodly construction and costly delays in permitting carbon or especially nuclear plants? Free fuel for ten years with those parabolics with plants cheaper to construct than nuclear?

= less than nuclear or coal construction, components & fuel.

 

Along with the coal or natural gas or oil burning power plant that has to sit there next to it for when the sun don't shine.

Let's see your numbers from an authoritative source.

 

The US govt provides support in the hardware and software standards and acts as the repository and mediator.

Which Security Company was that, I had someone who worked for me that worked for the DoE, and my oldest brother has done 2 nuclear decommissions, one in CT another in ME. Clearance was done by DoE, his employer is bonded to hold the clearance.

 

Companies manufacture things and obsolete them all the time. Further, small volume items like the solar moving sun-following equipment are very likely made from purchased gears, drives, motors and electronics.

Half my life's living has been replacing obsolete controls and equipment, or, more often, undercutting some company's attempts to extort huge sums for "maintenance" parts from customers owning their systems.

Your argument is purely contrived.

Fort Saint Vrain Nuclear Generating Station in Colorado.

 

Unfortunately the republicans see the sun as some sort of untrustworthy object that orbits around us and should be ignored by everyone.

 

But it is responsible for global warming, if there is such a thing.

 

And keep spare parts available for years and years.

 

Actually those of us with any sense see it as a unreliable very limited use source of energy that has a high cost associated with it.

 

Wonder how long it will be before this one goes broke?