Supreme Court Justices React To Boston’s Refusal To Fly The Christian Flag

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the first religion to ask, is the first one to ask, one has to be denied to bring them into it

    but once one is allowed, all have to be allowed
     
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    Swearing an Oath on the Bible Is Not Required
    Such scenes are so common that most people seem to assume that it's required. However, it's not. You have a right to simply "affirm" that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. No gods, Bibles, or anything else religious need to be involved
    https://www.learnreligions.com/affirming-swearing-oaths-difference-4589935#:~:text=Swearing an Oath on the Bible Is Not Required&text=Such scenes are so common,religious need to be involved.

    So the whole swearing on the bible nonsense is just religious zealotry.
     
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  3. Alwayssa

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    Originally, the DART board was hesitant to fly any religious advertisement. Then it agreed to the Christian advertisement, which was not too much Bible-thumping. After that, then the Satanic Temple of Dallas petitioned and put an ad there. Then the same group of Christians who got the initial advertisement said that is not fair, began protesting at DART HQ in Downtown, etc. Eventually, DART said no religious advertisements whatsoever,.

    The point is there are some Christians who want to fly their Christan flag at the Town Hall or wherever, but when it comes to other religions, the same group of Christians that want to fly the Christian Flag generally do a 180 and begin the argument, "This is a Christian Nation."

    Me, although I am a Christian, I really don't care as long as the rule is applied equally. it is why City Hall can now do Kwanza, Hanukkah, and Christmas during the month of December.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    In all religions, faith is what matters. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. And we use faith in pretty much all of our daily life. We use faith that everyone who is driving a car has a valid driver's license, or that the car will start after a cold night, or the airplane engines would not suddenly quit working while at 35,000 feet in the air, and so forth. Faith is not just a religious term, it is a secular term as well.
     
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    That's fake news. The 9-0 SCOTUS decision turned on NONE of those points.

    "Boston’s flag-raising program does not express government speech. Pp. 5–12."

    So, Boston's position that they could not fly flag because it would then represent "government speech" was simply wrong.

    "Because the flag-raising program did not express government speech, Boston’s refusal to let petitioners fly their flag violated the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment. When the government does not speak for itself, it may not exclude private speech based on “religious viewpoint”; doing so “constitutes impermissible viewpoint discrimination.Good News Club v. Milford Central School, 533 U. S. 98, 112. Boston concedes that it denied petitioners’ request solely because the proposed flag “promot[ed] a specific religion.” In light of the Court’s government-speech holding, Boston’s refusal to allow petitioners to raise their flag because of its religious viewpoint violated the Free Speech Clause. Pp. 12–13."

    That's not that difficult to follow.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/20-1800
     
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