Sweeping Federal LGBT Rights Bill Will Be Introduced This Week

full and unequivocal equal rights and protections for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender persons will not pass Congress.

just for Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals? that could pass.

but Congress isn't going to force people to accept a man becoming a woman, or vice-versa.

 

Not mad at all. I already knew the answer. I just wanted to demonstrate your fascist prejudice on which states you think have state rights and which states you think don't have state rights. For your information, the Tenth Amendment gives all states the right to define marriage, not just the states you agree with.

 

For 2,000 years, gay people have been the target of religious people.
Gay people have been imprisoned.
They have been stoned and hung.
Gay people have been chemically castrated.
They have been fired from their jobs and evicted from their homes.
Their military services has been disrespected.

Now one gay person demands a f**cking cake and religious people act as if the world has ended.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

 

I do NOT care if they're homosexual or not, nature played a cruel trick on them at birth. Just leave me and other INNOCENT people out of it. If a bake chooses NOT to bake their cake.... get over it, go elsewhere!

 

So sorry.
Until a State files suit claiming violation of it's 10th Amendment Rights and that case is heard by the courts, then laws preventing same sex marriage are null and void in all
states. Don't like it? Then do what gay people did. They took the matter through the court system on multiple levels and argued and won before the Supreme Court. Same way laws have been argued for 200 years.

So Sorry. You don't like. So Sad. You go home now.

 

Exactly.I have nothing against them living their lives however they want,but when it starts infringing on mine and friends and families' lives;We have a problem now.No you're not going to force us to celebrate your sexual preferences.You can holler "bigot" and whatever you want:It's all falling on deaf ears.

 

You don't seem to understand how our government works. The People wishing to legalize something are under no burden of justification. Rather the Government who wishes to BAN something must show a Compelling State interest in doing so. This means that if you want to ban milk, for example, no matter be it by Legislative Action or by a direct vote of the People, you must show WHY it should be banned. If the State cannot do that, and in the case of Milk, they cannot, no mater how large of a majority of votes they can obtain, it's Unconstitutional to do so.

Let that soak in.

 

Do you think it should be legal for you to be fired or not hired simply because of your celibacy? Denied an apartment, or other form of housing? Kicked out of, or not accept to public schools? I'm not talking about being rejected because your grades suck, I'm talking about being rejected in spite of the fact that your grades are good, but solely because of your chosen sexuality?

If you say yes to the above, I can't help. If you say no, then it's time for you to rethink your decision making.

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Who defines what is "perverse"? From where did they obtain that authority?

 

Not at all. We do not make laws based on your religious book. It is forbidden to do so. We could no more make a law requiring church attendance than we can banning same sex marriage based on what your holy book says. I do not deny in the history of our country, such things have been allowed, but that has been greatly reduced, as it should be, in the past 50-60 years. And we'll never go back.

 

As defined by whom? From where did he/she/they gain that authority?

 

Statistically true. Then again, people who abuse alcohol have a higher rate of developing liver problems, which could be fatal. Yet, they have that right. And lesbians have the lowest STD infection rates, lower than even that of heterosexuals. Are you suggesting that people should not have the right to endanger themselves? Then you best ban cars, skydiving, playing football, riding in airplanes, and a whole hose of other things.

Caused largely by people who think as you do.

Complete horse(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

You do, if you think (or know) they're going to get (*)(*)(*)(*) drunk and trash your property. What you do NOT have the right to discriminate based on their sexual orientation, without concrete justification that they probably (or will) trash your property. Two different things.

 

.and a higher rate of cancer: http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@editorial/documents/document/acspc-044844.pdf

 

How is that relevant?

 

So do smokers. Is that any of your business?

 

Says who? Regardless, the law not disagrees with you in every state. Sorry.

 

Big Deal. This bill will go nowhere. There was some sympathy when they were viewed as victims, now that they are trying to use the power of the State to bully others over private religious disagreements, they aren't looking so sharp:

Liberals have won a series of victories on social issues. Most Americans aren’t thrilled about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lled-about-it/?wprss=rss_the-fix&tid=sm_tw_pp

Americans don't like mean people.

 

I am a married heterosexual who is childfree by choice. In fact, my wife is intentionally fixed, and cannot get pregnant no matter how hard we try. Should my marriage be annulled? Not allowed in the first place, as I NEVER intended to have children? Do you realize how stupid your position is?

 

Do you realize those laws have been invalidated and unenforceable? If not, let me be the first to inform you of that fact. Whether you like it, or not.

 

We have no rights anymore. We only have what they allow us to have. The Patriot act made void what ever shred of rights we had.
If they can arrest anyone they please and keep them for as long as they please and torture and kill them, then why can't they make us all accept homosexuals?

 

From what you said it seems quite clear that you see those in the LGBT community and those who support the idea of treating them equally as being outside of religion. So, I want to make it clear that that is a false assumption.

Episcopals and some other denominations clearly disagree with you. The Pope disagrees with you.

And, your idea of accepting discrimination in the commons has been clearly rejected for decades. In fact, events such as the lunch counter sit-ins and legislation on equality in the workplace are key points in our civil rights history.

 

What is clear is that the first and tenth amendments have not proved to be adequate protection for those who want to deny civil rights.

 

interesting, it seems that you are claiming that those who choose to have gay sex have a mental illness. People who take their own lives are never of sound mind.

I'll accept that choosing the homosexual lifestyle is a mental illness and would support gvot funds spent to help cure those people.

I also do not support allowing men into the changing room with females of all ages just because the men claim to feel like a female that day

oh, and the strike rate of pedophilia among homosexuals, sadly, the ratio is true. That again supports that living the homosexual lifestyle probably is a mental illness in need of a cure.

 

The answer to your question is NO, unless the person your 'doing business' with doesn't want to have your sexual preferences thrown in their faces. If you are being distracting to the majority of people around you at work, school, etc., then yes, you should be sent home, expelled, fired, etc. There is a time and place for everything. The place to flaunt your sexuality is in your bedroom, or in your closet.

My celibacy does not 'interfere' with others rights to not have my sexual preferences thrown at their faces. I don't have to put on an act like most gays do--the lisping, the cross dressing, the lumber-jack lesbian look--all to 'inform' others of my sexual preference. If I wore a shirt that said, "I am celibate, don't hate me," I am sure I would receive strange looks from people because then I would be flaunting my sexual preference. Very few people care 'what goes on behind closed doors of other people.' No one would fire you, or deny you an apartment, or any of the things you listed above, if you kept your sexual preferences to yourselves. I miss those closets gays used to be in.

By the way, I am not a fundie. I hate those people and I think all fundies are dangerous. However, however, you being for the things listed above does not make you morally superior to me. You abscond with the moral high ground and then call me repressive.

As far as sex education, I think it should be taught in schools, because kids need to know what can happen when one has sex--pregnancy, STD, warts, cancer, etc. I think gay sex should only be mentioned in passing or in reference to AIDs. You would think it 'square' to teach about celibacy in school though wouldn't you? Too old fashioned, too square if schools don't teach that, when it comes to sex, anything goes, and screw the consequences of getting diseases, and not being able to have a traditional family. "Tradition" is an ugly word to you. There are many things that bother me about gays, and one of them is that you think you are more hip and 21st century than everyone else.

Once again, I miss those closets you used to be in; and don't call me a fundie. I have my opinion and it doesn't match yours so I am a fundie, and you are cool. I get it.

By the way, if you were a boss, and a fundie worked for you and constantly preached to the people he worked with, you would fire him. This is much different than you getting fired for preaching (in the way you act and dress) to the people you work with. In fact, if he wore his fundamentalism on his sleeve, so to speak, you wouldn't have hired him in the first place. Is there a law that says a homosexual boss has to hire a Christian fundamentalist? Are there 'special treatment' laws for them? NO!. Another thing, if I was a boss, I wouldn't hire a flaming gay, and I wouldn't hire a fundie. You would both ruin the ambience of the work place. And, I believe, that as the owner of the business, I should have the right to hire or not hire anyone I want.

When it comes to equal rights, gays are hypocrites. A gay would never hire a fundie, and would never be forced to hire a fundie. But fundies are is being forced to hire gays. Hypocrisy!

 

An appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.

You don't seem to understand how anti discrimination laws work. If I fire a fundie simply because he's a fundie, I'm in the wrong. If I fire him because of his misbehavior, failure to do his job, constantly showing up late, failure to adhere to the company dress code, showing up drunk, finding drugs in his desk, etc, that's completely justified. Likewise, if I refuse to hire him simply because he's a fundie, I'm in the wrong, but if I don't hire him because he lacks the necessary experience, that's legal.

All of the above also applies if you substitute the word "homosexual" for "fundie".

PS... I'm straight. Just a firm believer in equal rights.