Sydney & Melbourne in top five most expensive cities to live in

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Australia could just about be self sufficient cause we dont really lack in much, we could just about grow all our food, we have energy and resources but our manufacturing is farked and yet our two biggest cities are in the top 5 most expensive to live in the world.

    This must be a testament imo to how well our politicians have look after the nation for the last few decades.

    And why more average Australians should be in parliament rather than doctors & lawyers who are well on the way to farking our great nation right up.

     
  2. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    As I have been saying for some time. Australians have been an international joke for years. Two of their major cities are in the top 5 most expensive cities in the world to live in, but the country doesn’t own or manufacture anything. Its simply relying on selling it resources at garage sale prices to keep its housing bubble industry afloat.

    Not many smart international people will invest in Australia, besides in mining and buying Australian agriculture land. They all know there is a massive symbiotic relationship between Australian mining and its housing bubble, and when one goes, the other will fall with drastic consequences.

    The only things that keep Australia from becoming a GFC victim was this mining/housing bubble relationship, and the Gillard Government borrowing $200 billion, and still borrowing $100 million per day to keep the country afloat.

    Australia has now dropped to being about 15th on the list of places, international professionals want to come to live and work.

    Why do the Australian people think we have had to resort to dragging in not so professional people for 3rd world countries to work in Australian hospitals, education and other professional industries. No one from European countries want to come and live here, because its considered a backward shyte-hole for any professional career.

    The only people who want to came to Australia are the vagabonds of society like refugees and asylum seekers clustering together in ghettos, who can scrape out a living doing menial jobs or living on tax payer funded welfare.

    Don’t blame the politicians anymore, when the stupid backward Australian are too blame. When they have the chance to change things, they keep reverting back the their mentally retarded dispositions.

    The politicians are only treating the people in way in which the peoples mentality indicate they want to be treated. We all know you are never going to get a dog sitting up at the table using a knife and fork, so why bother. It’s the same for politicians, why bother explaining or doing things for people who are so dumb they will never learn.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Man this was such a next level comment, I agree with it 100%.

    Right now we're staying above water near solely because of the minerals/resources industry. We need to develop business and make Australia the country for individuals to come to, but to do that we need freedom in our market and freedom in its immigration policy. I am pretty doubtful with regard to our chances of turning this around - we're too stuck in the authoritarian way of thinking. It's only the ALP or the Coalition. Both are universally hated by the people (more than America hated George Bush). Why don't we do something about this?

    Sigh, I guess I'll have to move somewhere else eventually.
     
  4. garry17

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    A old stationhand named Billy was overseeing his herd in a remote pasture in the outback when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust.


    The driver, a young man in a Brioni® suit, Gucci® shoes, RayBan® sunglasses and YSL® tie, leaned out the window and asked the old man, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?"



    Billy looks at the young man, who obviously is a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure, why not?"


    The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell® notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3® cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.


    The yuppie then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop® and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany ....


    Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot® that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL® database through an ODBC connected Excel® spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry® and, after a few minutes, receives a response.

    Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet® printer, turns to Billy and says, "You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves."


    "That's right. Well, you'll be helpin yourself to one of me calves, then, since you won it fair en square." says Billy.

    He watches the smartly dressed yuppie select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the man gingerly picks it up & stuffs it into the boot of his car.

    As the yuppie is carefully brushing the dust & hair off his suit, Billy says, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what work you do & where you come from, will you give me back my calf?"

    The yuppie thinks about it for a second, wondering what this wrinkled up dirt encrusted uneducated old man could possibly know? He grins and then says, "Okay, old fella, why not? I'm a believer in fair play."

    "You're a politician & you work in Canberra." says the old timer.

    "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but, tell me how on earth did you guess that?"

    "No guessing required." answered Billy "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about how working people make a living - or about cows, for that matter. This is a herd of sheep.

    Now give me back my dog."


    AND THAT FOLKS IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ALL ABOUT.
     
  5. dumbanddumber

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    good one Garry.
     
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    Depending on your intended meaning of 'vagabond', i think i agree with everything here. But i do blame the pollies too. They are in a position to change things, but the problem is - to get to that position you have to basically be 'one of the tribe' and the tribe looks after their own. Honestly, hand on heart, i think that had a fair amount to do with Rudd's demise.

    I've yet to read his essays, but from what i've read about them, he genuinely wanted to be a warrior for the working class with socialist leanings (not hardcore, but more left than Labor was comfortable with). These days, Labor is Liberal Lite, with only modest disagreements in most areas. That's why they're struggling. Most Australian's are too stupid to investigate a third option and only vote Labor or Liberal. Independents, the Greens and Katter's party should all do better than they do.

    Back to the real topic, don't forget the Aussie dollar. Several of the Asian countries have suffered at the hands of the international bankers and finance sectors with pump and dump practices. Our government, and the vast bulk of the people living here have no control over that (though the government will invest to try to profit/minimise losses). We might get lucky and not suffer the same kind of pain that Thailand did back in the "Asian Financial Crisis".

    Considering how our economy works, imagine if we had to rely on similar mining tax revenue with 100million people. That would be roughly 1/4 per head revenue distribution compared to now. Thanks to Gillard (and Abbott and the greedy miners), we didn't have to wait long to see what that might feel like.
     
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    Melbourne and Sydney just jumped up in the list because of the high dollar. Once the US and EU sort their (*)(*)(*)(*) out and their currencies come back from the dead we'll drop down again.
     
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    In all seriousness, when was the last time anyone saw one of these over paid parasites (politicians) in their local area, that didn’t involve a natural disaster; grand opening, or advertising for a campaign election?

    The only time any of these parasites ever want interaction with the Australian people, is when they can get some media photo opportunity for themselves and their own agendas.

    These parasites will never just show-up in a local area genuinely wanting to know how the people are going and what they need, unless there is a specific agenda attached to their fly-in fly-out (FIFO) visits.

    Politicians are employed by the Australian people to work for them, and do what the people want, but when was the last politician who actually thought like that? You would probably have to go back to the 1920’s and 1930’s to find politicians with that methodology, because no politicians have had that methodology within the last 60 years to my understanding.

    Nearly every public owned State and Federal asset has been sold off to foreigners; including most of Australia’s natural resources and prime agricultural land - so that must give most people some small indication that these parasites are not working in their best interests or the countries best interest over the past five decades.

    The people voting in the same political parties who are making the same mistakes over, and over again, are just facilitating these politicians bad behaviour and incompetence. Therefore, how can anyone blame politicians ( political parties) for making these same wasteful childish mistakes, when the people vote them out of power one year, and the re-elect them again 3 - 6 years later without them ever changing their behaviour. LOL LOL

    Australia’s education is such a low international standard - its now considered a joke to any professional who wants to seriously advance their career. You want to further your career after finishing Uni; its common knowledge that you have to leave Australia, because there is NO funding available. What am absolute smack in the face for Australia and its people, that there are Universities in India that are producing more advanced and higher educated graduates than some Australian Universities - as some Australian Universities are dropping on the University tables.

    How could that pathetic moron Roxon ever consider introducing a school testing system for Australian school children, that was proven by the Board of Education in the USA to be a dismal failure 5 years ago. This incompetent clown has probably knocked down every “Aussie” kids education by another decade, compared to other countries.

    My definition of “vagabonds” are individuals who have the opportunity to move beyond a dependency of welfare, alcohol and drugs, but refuse to use it.

    Australia only has a population of 21 million, and I personally don’t think we can afford to import 10,000 people per year from extremely low socio-economic backgrounds with relatively poor too no education. Australia’s major infrastructure like Health, Education and especially housing is at braking point now, and an additional 10,000 poor people with no education is not going to help the situation, but only make it worse.

    On average in Australia, there are 50,000 people per State waiting for public housing accommodation, with an additional 400,000 street homeless.

    Before these incompetent parasites allow another 10,000 refugees/asylum seekers into Australia. Wouldn’t it be a better solution to either find or build homes for the people already homeless in Australia, instead of constantly burdening an already over burdened system.

    These parasites cannot even manage a housing system correctly or properly. In every town in Australia, Department of housing properties are being left vacant for sometimes up to 6 months without them being occupied.

    Right now its case of idiots wanting idiots to govern them and run the country, so they deserve what they get.

    Why would politicians want to change, and step up, and do something smart and intelligent for the people and the country, when the dumbarse people accept the politicians being stupid and incompetent. LMFAO.

    This country is going to crash BIG-TIME, because its not going to be sustained forever by mining and it massive housing bubble.

    When the massive South American, Russian, and Canadian mining projects come on line within the next 5 years, no one will even want Australian mining resources anymore - Australia won’t even be able to give them away for peanuts.

    My sincere advise to anyone with housing investment - GET OUT NOW while you still can. When Australia housing bubble finally hit’s the wall after 30 years of exaggerated expansion by the mining industry; its going to make what happened to the housing industry in the USA, Greece, Spain and Ireland look like a fairy story.

    Everyone knows that property value throughout Australia is double, and sometimes triple what its really worth, and its only been supported by greedy banks on the back of the mining money.

    Yes. We have Gina, but for those who think she is going to be the knight in shining armour that will be Australia’s saviour; then you better think again - the North be Australia’s food bowl. LMFAO
     

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