Tackle white supremacy as terrorism, experts say

black people helped build America

and if a women or a back man had come up with an idea in the past, I am not so sure a white rich man would not of claimed it as their own

do you think if a Trump employee came up with a great idea Trump would give them credit or claim it as his own?

remember women and black people were more like property in the past

if a slave came up with an idea, would the owner give them credit? history would never know about it....

same is true of researches, they have many people working under them, but they can take the credit when a discovery is made as they funded the research

Trump is not the only Trump in history, many narcissistic people in the past more then willing to take credit for others ideas

 

Once I had a white Marine Officer pilot as a friend. He served until discharged from duty by his reserve unit. He had flown fighters in the Korean war though.

Anyway he was an engineer. He was working at a firm who hired him to explore patents for new equipment sales. His job was to penetrate the patent to make changes to make it a new patent.

Anyway, no matter what his work produced, his agreement with the firm was they got the patent and not Bill. Bill did not appear upset at all. Last time i talked to him he changed jobs and was engineering in San Jose, CA for FMC corporation where his job was working on military machines such as the APC used by combat troops to carry them around.

 

yep, this happens all the time.... people that make discoveries do not always get the credit

and with NDA's and such, sometimes nowadays it woudl be a crime for them to say it was their idea or even speak about it

some Americans can not even speak about their experiences with their President because of NDA's - Trump could lie and if they correct him be financially ruined

 

Because people are innocent until proven guilty. Right?

What do you mean by 'discovered'? Are you suggesting something specific?

 

not according to the republicans patriot act

 

What do you mean by 'discovered'? Are you suggesting something specific?

 

how are all terrorist discovered, I mean the standard normal way.. good undercover work, snitches, ect....

 

For actual terrorists sure. But thats not what the OP is about, its about treating all white supremecists as terrorists, when many have committed no terrorism.

So what is to be done with white supremecists who have committed no terrorism?

 

That’s laughable. What kind of socialism are you talking about ?
We’ve had social security for decades, Medicare for decades and still, 30k people die each each for lack of healthcare for the rest. It appears that the private sector is not doing its job. Other then that, the private sector with its unregulated capitalism is the root cause of wars in the Middle East, global warming, pollution, recessions and the main cause of illegal immigration by hiring of illegals without penalties. The GOP gives away the bank to corporations to the tune of .8 trillion dollar deficit with tax cuts and threatens to start another war with Iran and Venezuela.

Trump practices socialism with a tariff war on its friends, while not using its allies to coordinate action vs China, costing billions in lost trade. Nope, the idiot savant disctator ship of Trump is a total disaster as is the gop.

 

Yup....Trump voters on average have even lower IQs and they’re a vast majority of white. The variance within a population is greater then between them.

 

Sounds like unregulated capitalism in action. The firm is actually a private subcontractor. That’s not the military.

 

When I first started working, companies with over a certain number of employees provided healthcare insurance with no payment from the worker. What I've always wondered is what happened that changed that? My guess, which could be wrong, is that the government decided to change a law to allow more businesses the opportunity to grow. I think they started to subsidize healthcare, but I am not sure.

You see, when the government starts paying for something, the price goes way up because they know it's a law and they can charge as much as they want. I have not been able to research my hypothesis, but I would guess some of that is true.

Competition does provide some regulation in the market. I believe we pay for most of the research that is done on new 'drugs'. The rest of the world does not have that. That's partly why their meds are less expensive.

What I am saying is, the idea is not all that bad, but the cost will be prohibitive. If we regulate them, these businesses will simply go away and invest in some other business. There will end up being one or two companies that get all the money and they will not have competition, so they won't be all that interested in pushing their scientists to create new and better meds.

I don't know what the answer is, but it does not seem to be medicare for all. That's not a good idea in practice.

 

white supremacist are doing terrorist acts, means we could treat them like any Muslim that belongs to or funds ISIS

 

What 6%?

.01% of anyone commits a homicide

 

Yes, you're right, statistics provide data that are interpreted in terms of medians and averages. That much was never in question....
Some Blacks, some Whites, and some East-Asians have above-average IQ's, while some of each of these main racial groups have IQ's that are below average. Were you reaching for some more complex point, or was that it...?

You may enlarge your understanding concerning the scope of race and intelligence with a relatively short work by Nicholas Wade, entitled, "A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History". Spoiler -- the most intelligent groups known today are White Russian Jews, and, East Asians (Orientals)... not Whites (Caucasians). Link: https://www.amazon.com/Troublesome-...nicholas+wade&qid=1558187435&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Again, one wonders how long it will be before we hear the race-conscious Far-Left raising hell about "Oriental Supremacists" or some similar rage....

 

These 'experts' would need to lobby Congress to change the law. I see you keep promoting the lie about Trump but hey, facts are not important to the sufferers.

 

you didnt answer my question. what of the white supremecists who aren't doing terrorist acts?

this is the point of the OP, really. We already treat terrorists as terrorists. if we're to not change how we treat those who havn't committed terrorism, then the OP is proposing nothing.

if we're to treat white supremecists who havnt committed terrorism as terrorists anyway, what does that look like? What changes?

 

Your right, you would be guessing. Just the opposite is true. The govt pays for the medical research most companies do for drugs and treatments. What you don’t get is, our govt has been paying for the bulk of medical research for decades. This is your tax dollar, so big phama can charge three to ten times as much for drugs here as they do in countries with the universal healthcare.
You need to tell me where our govt. pays more for a service then private industry. It just doesn’t happen. You’re still guessing. I was in the military for a decade and absolutely no private industry could do the things we do as cheaply as we did. We are non profit, they aren’t. But keep guessing and keep being wrong. No one will change your mind....

 

That's not what I said?

 

Guess you don’t know what you said.

 

Then why are you afraid of competing against the govt. if you think they are more expensive. What’s wrong with the public option ? The bottom lne is, the govt. is more often less expensive.

Our drug companies charge us more then the rest of the world, even though, we pay for the research with our tax dollars.

 

You know, the Caucasian theory, the idea that Asians became White as they passed through the Caucasus Mountains, has been disproven by DNA mapping. White people began near the Baltic Sea. The purest White people are Scandinavians. White Russians began as Scandinavian tribes.

In animal husbandry, it is common knowledge that the offspring from two differing breeds tend to out perform pure breeds. This is why breeding animals tend to be pure breeds, and their offspring (to be eaten) are mixed breeds. European Jews are essentially half German and half Semite. One would expect there to be an increase in certain performances.

Some years ago, I was working for a scientific instrument manufacturer. It had been bought out by an investment group. They brought in corporate engineers to "put our stuff in shape" for integration into their wider corporate plans. They brought in an East Asian mathematician, part on the idea that he, being East Asian would be able to create better algorithms. Long story short, he never succeeded, and the original, that an old pot smoking hippie had written, was used.


Intelligence is inherited, just as is athletic ability, height, and eye color. The best indicator of a child's academic success is the academic success of the parents.

Your "race-conscious Far-Left raising hell" has more to do with the misinformation your media outlet has been feeding you, than real life liberals.

 

A white supremest who doesn’t do acts of terrorism is the audience who gives satisfaction to the one who acts out the terrorism. . He( she) is the acknowledgement these deranged people are looking for. They’re the cheering crowd promoting the act of violence. They’re accountable. Few commit these acts in a vacuum. They’re recruited, often by the ones you alluded to. They are the Trumps of this world.....

 

And how should they be 'tackled'?

Thus far, no one in this thread has explained how they want to 'tackle' people who havn't broken any laws.

 

You do it by limiting the extent that extremism can reach....
But you can’t with Trump as president. He supports extremism among which some elements support far right terrorism .
https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/us-refuses-to-sign-global-pledge-to-curb-online-extremism/