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Team Deciphers Sea-Level Rise From Last Time Earth’s CO2 Was as High as Today

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  1. Josephwalker

    Josephwalker Banned

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    Actually the Jurassic period was very lush
     
    Josephwalker, Sep 4, 2019
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    Today is lush too, before humans came along. We had massive forests in North America, South America, Europe, and East Asia.
     
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    Josephwalker, Sep 4, 2019
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    Point is your previous post was not accurate.

     
    Josephwalker, Sep 4, 2019
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    Distraff, Sep 4, 2019
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    Following a record breaking snowfall winter it blows a huge hole in the cults predictions for a hot dry California. Some peaks around Tahoe still have snow on them and it will start snowing soon at those elevations. If the snow doesn't melt very soon they will technically be new glaciers
     
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    You are confusing temperature with climate. Temperature is short-term and climate is long-term. A record breaking showfall for several months in one small part of the world doesn't stop climate from happening globally over the next few centuries.
     
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    Welcome to America. This is what happens when you melt Antarctica.
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    You are the one making accusations. All I ask for is proof and you did not even present evidence. And Trump is not a scientist .... He is a contractor.
     
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    Once again what it means is doomsday cult predictions for California failed as do all their scary ass predictions
     
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    When your response in debate is "prove it" you are effectively conceding that you have no effective rebuttal and instead want to end debate. In essence you are admitting you have nothing and have lost the debate.
    The exception would be if your opponent claims somebody did or said something that they need to verify. This is debate not a court, you are not a judge and your opponent is not a defendant.
     
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    That would maybe be what happened if you melted all the ice on earth and who knows, in 1000 years that could happen or the US could be under ice. Probably somewhere in between
     
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    Every scientific organization on the planet that means anything supports Climate change and names man as the cause. This carries more weight than the opinion of a ransom person on the internet and a construction contractor. To say NASA is all political because it doesn't support your opinion is not only unfair but unsupported by any facts. To withdraw funding from climate research...... just cause you don't like it ..... and it doesn't support your political agenda is not only wrong but dangerous.
     
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    That's completely untrue.
     
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    Every one that means anything to you that is.
     
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    We don't know whether the Earth is warming, cooling, or staying the same temperature. We have no way of measuring the temperature of the Earth's surface. We don't have near enough thermometers...
     
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    Because...?
     
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    No is isn't all speculation. You don't understand the difference between scientific evidence and mathematical models, and some internet jockey spewing nonsense? Science is predictive. That is required by definition. Science requires evidence. Science uses math and the laws of physics to make predictions. That isn't speculation.
     
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    That the earth is warming is a fact. Your objections are rooted in ignorance, And there is now about 95% confidence that global warming is largely due to man-made climate change.
     
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    That is an inaccurate statement and thermometers are not really used for global temperature readings...local or even regional perhaps.
     
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    No, it's not. I don't agree to it.

    A fact is not a universal truth, nor is it a proof. A fact is simply shorthand predicate.

    No, they are rooted in logic, science, and mathematics.

    Argument From RandU Fallacy. You are using made up numbers.
    Void Argument Fallacy. Define "global warming". Define "climate change". Remember, circular definitions are not allowed. Describe how a climate "changes".
     
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    What do we use for "global temperature readings" then?
     
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    That 95% confidence claim has nothing to do with actual statistics. It’s an opinion from alarmists.
     
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    That is a nonsense, ignorant comment. Your feeble, ignorant opinion means nothing in the face of facts.
     
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    Thousands if not millions or monitoring stations and satellites. This isn't 1895, You then take an average. And your opinion means nothing. You aren't a scientist and I would bet you never even attended college. And when the future of the planet is at stake, you playing Holiday Inn or armchair Scientist is not only dumb, it is the height of arrogance.

    Even the opinions of scientists don't matter. What matters is the hard data.
     
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