Tell Us Again How Obama's FBI was NOT Corrupt . . . just for giggles; that is.

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  1. Facts-602

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    I got the whole part where you’re not minding your own business, but nothing else made the least bit of sense. Reword it, and get back to me.
     
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    No it failed because GOP States refused to expand Medicaid and have obstructed in A million ways. And it did not fail. Any failure is because the whole damn system costs too much after the GOP scam we've had forever. Keep voting against your own interests because you were totally misinformed.....
     
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    Yeah, it must be your memory loss, and aversion to actual facts. Nobody twisted the arm of a single dem to vote for that travesty. Hillary, and Biden are complete political opportunist, and you voted for her, and you’re going to vote for Oatmeal brains. Care to address your hypocrisy?
     
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    It's called reality and listening to respected journalists and law enforcement. You go with the propaganda... But many thanks to the GOP for the stupidest wars ever and the corrupt world depression.
     
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    How long you been drinking that koolaid?
     
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    No it failed because it was not a well thought out program and the mechanics of it were faulty and it failed to do what it was supposed to do and instead tens of millions of people and familes saw their premiums explode and their out of pocket expenses explode and your specious declarations that I am uninformed refute nor prove anything other than you have nothing of merit to add here.
     
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    He Saddam did had WMD but most had deteriorated in hiding where the inspectors could not find them or had been moved out of the country but the crucial point the more important point was that with the sanctions lifted he would have quickly rearmed his WMD stockpiles as the ISG the Iraq Survey Group found. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you start personally attacking others which BTW will get your post removed and a warning issued around here.

    That help you out?
     
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    No, your fairytale version of real life events didn’t help. Saddam didn’t have WMDs, he did bluff though to keep Iran in check. Bu$h ran with one intel source, that every other western intel service knew was full of Sh*t. Bush lied the country into a war, if you haven’t come to terms with that by now, you never going too.
     
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    I've always followed respected journalists along with your ridiculous crap hate propaganda machine. Everything you know is wrong.
     
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    fake news, Trump is corrupt though
     
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    Of course he had chemical and biological weapons that Reagan helped him with in the 1980s.but he was nowhere near atomic weapons which is what the Bush administration scared everyone with.... Try reading and watching something besides total garbage.
     
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    the only thing that is corrupt as the greedy idiot GOP party and it's ridiculous propaganda machine
     
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    republicans paid them

    Marco Rubio ended it after he lost the primaries

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html

    "During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination."

    when Hillary got hold of it, she turned it over to the FBI as she was supposed too
     
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    Of course he did he used them in attacks on Iranians and his own people. That the arsenal that he had hidden from inspectors, which we later found, had deteriorated because they weren't stored properly or maintained does not change that fact. The WMD he had before we invaded were just a minor part of the threat he presente WMD especially chemical and biological are easy to produce if you have the precursors and equipment and scientist which he all had. And of course we found his hidden cache's of the materials he would use to quickly rearm. Saddam was a WMD threat and would have always remained a WMD threat as the Clinton administration had said.

    From the Congressional testimony on the ISG interim report

    "I have covered a lot of ground today, much of it highly technical. Although we are resisting drawing conclusions in this first interim report, a number of things have become clearer already as a result of our investigation, among them:

    1. Saddam, at least as judged by those scientists and other insiders who worked in his military-industrial programs, had not given up his aspirations and intentions to continue to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Even those senior officials we have interviewed who claim no direct knowledge of any on-going prohibited activities readily acknowledge that Saddam intended to resume these programs whenever the external restrictions were removed. Several of these officials acknowledge receiving inquiries since 2000 from Saddam or his sons about how long it would take to either restart CW production or make available chemical weapons.

    2. In the delivery systems area there were already well advanced, but undeclared, on-going activities that, if OIF had not intervened, would have resulted in the production of missiles with ranges at least up to 1000 km, well in excess of the UN permitted range of 150 km. These missile activities were supported by a serious clandestine procurement program about which we have much still to learn.

    3. In the chemical and biological weapons area we have confidence that there were at a minimum clandestine on-going research and development activities that were embedded in the Iraqi Intelligence Service. While we have much yet to learn about the exact work programs and capabilities of these activities, it is already apparent that these undeclared activities would have at a minimum facilitated chemical and biological weapons activities and provided a technically trained cadre.

    Tell me if Saddam wasn't a WMD threat then why was Hans Blix's and UNSOCM insisting that his inspection team find them, catalog them and destroy them?
     
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    Reagan helped his pal Saddam with that. Great job GOP covert action always the best.... How'd that work out? Always a catastrophe.
     
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    He aquired his WMD all on his own and was full prepared to reconstitute those weapons stocks with money he had hijacked from the oil for food money. Try reading and watching something besides total garbage.
     
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    No he did not and your lack of rebuttal of the facts noted.
     
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    Everything you spew can be debunked with a quick google search. You’re sorely in need of some self reflection, and yet we both know you’re not capable of that. A pity really.
     
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    Misinformed and uninformed, the GOP way for 20 years now.
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    The US didn't want either side to win but with the Soviets aiding Iran and Irans actions against US interest we certainly didn't want Iran to win the war. We in fact had tried to aid Iran, Iran-Contra remember, but that failed. And that was all entirely a separate matter from what we are discussing here and why Saddam was rightfully removed from office. Geopolitical forces are in constant flux as when Saddam invaded Kuwait. So try addressing what I posted.
     
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    Don't let the facts bother you.....Kuwait was due to the Republicans supporting Saddam to the point where he thought he could get away with anything. Our ambassador April what's your name told him we weren't interested in border disputes with Kuwait LOL. GOP always a catastrophe especially the last 35 years....
     
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    It was April Gillespie and Kuwait was due to Saddam's own ambitions and he paid for it and was removed and now she did not tell him we were OK with him invading Kuwait more conspiracy myths.

    The fact remains he was a threat to his own people, to the region and the world and would never have given up those ambitions or his desire to possess WMD and was fully prepared to restock his arsenals within a matter of weeks as soon as the sanctions were lifted. Good riddance.
     
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    Yeah, removing Saddam from power wasn’t worth the cost.
     
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    Great how did that work out LOL. He was running a secular country that hadn't attacked anybody for hundreds of years before we got involved. By which I mean your lying greedy Republican ******* Masters.... Always a catastrophe....
     
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    Sure I'm wrong if all you listen to is garbage Rupert Murdoch TV and newspapers and radio demagogues like your orange clown.... LOL so give me one example I'll prove you're the one who's wrong....
     
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