Temperature question

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    A friend of mine, an RN, is self-quarantining after caring for a COVID-positive patient. He was out for about 4 days. He is back to work and they are just monitoring his temperature.

    Does anybody know if ALL COVID-positive people develop temperatures?

    The reason I ask is because I was totally asymptomatic but tested positive last year. I never had a high temperature or any other symptoms.

    Can positive patients showing symptoms NOT have a high temperature as one of them?

    If asymptomatic people or don't develop temperatures, how does monitoring that help?
     
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    I don’t think temp. is a good predictor. I don’t know about delta but in the past it hasn’t been.

    https://precisionhealth.iu.edu/news...ot-be-helping-stop-the-spread-of-covid19.html

    It’s probably better than doing nothing but very unlikely to stop/slow spread.
     
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    Thanks for your reply. I was thinking about this because of my nurse friend but also because my "regular" temperature hovers around 95/96 so I am "feverish" around 99 but doctors have always dismissed that. Each doctors' office and the hospital requires a temperature check upon entry.

    And, lo and behold, your linked information clearly shows that's not a good indicator at all.
     
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    And here's another possibility we have just recently heard that the test that we have been using are relatively inaccurate and give many false positives so perhaps you had a false positive.
     
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    Having a positive result on the PCR test DOES NOT MEAN that person is infected with anything at all. It means only that he has pieces of virus remnants, dead or alive, in his body.
     
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    if your body fights it off soon enough, you may have no real symptoms other than a slight immune response

    so while if you get a temperature, that may be a sign, but it's not a sure fire detection method

    not a doctor, but that is the way I understand it
     
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    During the last peak, my wife was running a low-grade fever and since she works in an ICU, they made her stay home for ten days. A couple of weeks ago, she again ran a slight fever, and this time they told her to take the day off and check her temp before reporting back to work the next day. My guess is that the fever is seen now as a caution rather than an indicator. But I'm thinking that the fever is probably related to how much of the virus you contact.
     
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    Simple answer, No.
     
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    Most get temperatures but not always.

    I don't know if they are using the scanner or having them check at home. Its useless to scan people when they enter because they only have a temperature for 8-24 hours max, but can be contagious for weeks.

    Ultimately it's just to make it feel like they are doing something.
     
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    To be fair, I have NEVER understood why people take or give their kids Tylenol to fight a fever. The fever is doing its job. The body shuts down so all its resources can be used for the immune system. I've always felt that way and not just about fevers associated with COVID.
     
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    I agree, with the exception of high temperatures reaching pre dangerous levels.
     
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    That makes sense given the number of frontline workers who have a much, much higher risk of exposure than the rest of us. I was quite surprised that people were still making dentist appointments early on in the battle. There is no greater risk of two people's proximity to one another (outside a sexual relationship, of course) than getting dental work.

    It also makes sense from personnel perspective. We probably just can't afford to have frontline workers quarantined for 10-14 days at a time especially with all the variants doing their dirty work throughout the country (world). I was absolutely SHOCKED to read about Australia's system going off the rails because they only have 61 beds. I live in a very, very small town and our one hospital even has more beds than that.

    I hope your wife continues to stay well. Please express my gratitude to her for the work she's doing to help us all.
     
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    agree unless it's running too high, for too long, then the overheating can cause more damage, time to see a doctor when it gets that bad
     
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    Simple answer, Thanks. ;-)

    P.S. I kind of knew the answer because I personally didn't have a fever but I'm not positive my test was accurate either.
     
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    Yep. I probably should have added that (but I assumed you knew it - and you do) so the "sky is falling" crowd doesn't go ballistic. ;-)
     
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    Even localized fever, in the case of abrasions or lacerations.
    I have many tattoos. A new tattoo ALWAYS has a fever for some time.
     
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    Trump declared a national emergency, declared himself a wartime President and issued shutdown guidelines to the States when the virus was effecting mainly the elderly

    imagine if a virus variant starts effecting people's little children, that is when people really start to panic, when people's children are in the hospital and many dying and people can't be by their side.... let's hope it never gets to that point
     
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    I think we are already seeing that as parents and school boards defy DeSantis. He's emulating Trump's "it's no big deal" to woo Trump supporters but seems to have missed the memo that approach got Trump fired.

    Delta is making it's presence known very, very quickly. The last I heard, Lambda has hit California. Schools are reopening so it's probably just a matter of weeks before all the kids/college kids are going to be exposed to something. The end date for the eviction moratorium is here (or close) so people are going to have to go back to some kind of work.

    I find it sad that so many people were given the impression (or interpreted the information) as the vaccine being a CURE-ALL. No doctor has said that about ANYTHING ever. Doctors, surgeons and insurance companies make their policies and procedures based on actuarial data and that's reported in percentages. Doctors won't say "I can guarantee..." because they can't. They will say "X% of patients respond favorably to this <whatever medication or procedure is being recommended>. I don't blame doctors for this.

    I blame the people that don't choose to educate themselves about the things they put in their own bodies. How is it any less reckless to take a medication you know nothing about than taking a street drug? (It's not apples to apples, but you know what I mean). It's an unknown! I know more people that do NOT know what medications they are taking or WHY they are taking them than I do that know that information about their medications.

    Just yesterday, another friend told me she is taking a baby aspirin every day. I asked her if she had high blood pressure or angina and she said she did not but she also didn't know WHY her doctor told her to take one every day. There is no way in hell I am going to ingest something without research and questions. I am the one taking ALL the risk if it goes off the rails. Why wouldn't a person do that? People spend more time looking at a menu than they do reading about their medications. That's scary.

    I have a theory - I think doctors make so much money because the bulk of it is hazard duty pay for having to deal with stupid people. ;-)
     
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    we know a lot about vaccine and how they work, they create an immune response

    the danger to them is if they cause the body to attack itself or an essential protein, ect....

    the fact that so many have already had the vaccine means that risk is very very low now

    what you say was true before that, but not at this point, as now so many have taken it and not had those results

    I do think doctors can male mistakes though, statins lower cholesterol, but the mistake was thinking that cholesterol was the problem they thought it was, so the assumptions were wrong, thus the criteria for success was flawed, cholesterol is like the fire trucks, they are always at the scene of a fire.... but are they the cause of the fire?
     
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    I am speaking to the new alarms about vaccinated people contracting Delta and Lambda.

    Many vaccinated people believed they were "all good" once they were vaccinated. Many took trips, had gatherings, stopped masking and socially distancing and washing and disinfecting their hands. They acted like the vaccine was some kind of super power and now are hearing about Delta and Lambda cases among vaccinated people and they're scared all over again.

    It's a catch-22. Some people can't handle the isolation and extra tasks for self-protection. I've never had a problem being alone and I like quiet so it doesn't get to me but some of my neighbors and friends are having a very hard time. I witness it every day.
     
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    Thank you. I've been to my dentist three times in the past year, and they are all well protected. Double masks, face shield, gloves, hand sanitizer all over the place--Almost comical, but I think necessary. I'm glad they do that.

    My wife is working at a major hospital, and it's overwhelmed. They halted all non-emergency stuff. The part that's scary is that while they've learned better methods for treating, and death rates aren't as bad, most of the patients are in the 30-50 range. They end up with lingering issues that have brought some back in with heart attacks, strokes, and organ failure. They've also seen a significant increase in young children. I'm hoping those lingering issues are not something the youngest are going to have to fight.
     
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    yeah, I agree with that

    all we can do is try to educate them

    I tried to do this early on too, and some attacked me for it, saying telling people the truth would confuse them, people would think the vaccine was not effective, but I think the truth always needs to be said

    the truth is, the vaccine does not prevent people from catching the virus, the vaccine only helps prepare the immune system to fight the virus if\when they do get it and you can and most likely will get it more than once, vaccines improved the odds of not being hospitalized or dying from it, that is what vaccines do

    "It's a catch-22. Some people can't handle the isolation and extra tasks for self-protection. I've never had a problem being alone and I like quiet so it doesn't get to me but some of my neighbors and friends are having a very hard time. I witness it every day."

    i am the same, and that is very true
     
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    Yep, they are. I went for a dentist appointment last Fall and it was like a scene from Robocop just about. LOL

    My concern about dentists, doctors and hospitals is the congregation of sick people. I'm not necessarily worried about the medical care provider but the other people around that may not be as diligent about practicing safety. I was in the hospital for 10 days last Summer and have been in the ER about 9 times since then (2 times in the past 2 weeks). I assure you that I was NOT ONCE the person that called 911. Nope. And, that's even *after* my 10 day stay in which the doctors talked about Life Flighting me to a larger hospital but didn't because they didn't think I wouldn't survive the helicopter ride. They told my friend that she saved my life. Sure, I volunteered in hospitals when I was younger and I worked in a clinic for a temporary position in college but I don't VOLUNTARILY go where sick people are these days.

    I have been trying to keep up with all the latest information but it makes me so sad. It is especially hurtful when others don't even seem to notice. We are close to 1 million deaths in the US. Why that doesn't hit some people's radar is something I just can't understand. How did we get to a place where people suffering and dying and people suffering because their loved ones are suffering and dying doesn't matter? It's hard for me to conceptualize. ANY death for ANY reason at ANY age for ANY person is hard on those left behind and that's multiplied for the people on the front line that try to lower those numbers. I was offered a full scholarship to go to college and onto medical school. I turned it down. I knew that I could do it academically. I also knew that I would be doing a disservice because I wouldn't be able to witness people suffering and dying. Kinda strange as I had to do that as a cop but it's definitely a lower volume (unless one is military police).

    Honestly, as much as it hurts me to read about all that's happening with COVID around the world, I'd still choose to be this way than become someone that can feel NOTHING about it. I wouldn't even know how to start doing that. I never want to be a person that can read a post like yours and it doesn't matter.
     
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    You can die from fever. The majority of things the body does to "help" when you get sick are generally the things that kill you. The body is not real smart sometimes.
     
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    You might remember that we were told that once vaccinated we'd be good to go?
     

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