Texas governor signs bill that lets police arrest migrants who enter the US illegally

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Well this is something.

    Texas governor signs bill that lets police arrest migrants who enter the US illegally

    BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) — Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday approved sweeping new powers that allow police to arrest migrants who illegally cross the U.S. border and give local judges authority to order them to leave the country, testing the limits of how far a state can go to enforce immigration laws.

    Opponents have called the measure the most dramatic attempt by a state to police immigration since a 2010 Arizona law — denounced by critics as the “Show Me Your Papers” bill — that was largely struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court. Immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility, and Texas’ law is also likely to face swift legal challenges.

    The law, which takes effect in March, allows any Texas law enforcement officer to arrest people who are suspected of entering the country illegally. Once in custody, they could either agree to a Texas judge’s order to leave the U.S. or be prosecuted on misdemeanor charges of illegal entry. Migrants who don’t leave could face arrest again under more serious felony charges.



    This makes sense, but I suspect it will be almost immediately challenged in the courts and may not get a try out anytime soon.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont much care what Texas does in Texas, but I too think it will be struck down.

    " arrest people who are suspected of entering the country illegally"......so, if someone, like a tourist, has an accent they can suspect them to be in US illegally and arrest them. And then what? Detain for how long?
     
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    They actually have a border with Mexico, so it shouldn't be too hard to pick up people who are crossing. You don't need to do an "accent" check or whatever other weird thing you're thinking. They're literally right there.

    But the President of Mexico agrees with you so...

    Mexico to challenge Texas' new 'inhumane' migration law, president says

    MEXICO CITY (Reuters) -Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on Tuesday said his government was preparing to challenge a new Texas law allowing state law enforcement to arrest suspected migrants, which he called "inhumane."

    On Monday, Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed the law giving local officers powers long delegated to the U.S. government.

    Migrants who enter the United States illegally can already be charged with illegal entry or re-entry under federal laws, but the governor of the border state has criticized what he calls U.S. President Joe Biden's failure to enforce them.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its a fair question, because it doesn't say anything about crossing borders, it only says that is local cops suspects you are in TX illegally (like in Dallas), then they can arrest you.

    No, the MX president comment has nothing to do with my question (which you won't answer)
     
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    Weird, I actually did answer.
     
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    That's what you always claim after avoiding to answer. It's ok. I'll answer it myself.

    Question: Can local LE arrest anyone, like a tourist with an accent, and claim they suspect them to be in US illegally?

    Answer: Yes, the local LE can arrest anyone and claim they suspected that person to be in Texas illegally, be that person a tourist, or a foreign student, or a guy with a stutter.

    The law elevates local LE to a role of an immigration law enforcer, and the law covers all of Texas, not just the border with Mexico.
     
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    What would be the basis for arrest of a person with an accent? What would be the basis of arresting a guy with a stutter? I'm not following your "legal" logic.

    As for the answer to your question that you claim I didn't answer, yes I did:

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    I know on this forum it is a common tactic of progs to make this claim that a question wasn't answered. I know all too well since so many progs edit out my answers in their replies so they can say, "you didn't answer my question!"

    But in this case you included it so you're just not paying attention to the reply.
     
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    Suspicion of them being in TX illegally.

    Suspicion of them being in TX illegally.

    Suspicion is enough. A valid reason is not required.

    If saying something irrelevant is an "answer" then fine, but as I said I already answered it myself, so don't worry about addressing the actual issue.

    Inane claims and labels deleted.
     
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    You can't stop yourself editing my reply.
     
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    Cry me a river. You make inane claims about posters and slap dishonest labels on them, and then you complain when they dont re-post them. Seriously?
     
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    So are you denying that you edited my reply, accusing me of name calling or both?
     
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    If you feel I'm trolling, name calling, or insulting you, then you should report me. Or better yet, put me on ignore. That would show me. Right now all I see from you is you constantly throwing stop sticks in the way of this discussion, or any discussion.
     
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    According to your logic there, it would be impossible for any country to enforce immigration law.

    Some basic things that would raise suspicions are driving without a driver's license, not being able to speak English or speaking very broken English. Then not having any public records that go back, which can include all sorts of things. They'll interview the suspect about their life, then investigate some of the facts they were told to see if things seem to add up. They can also compare biomarkers to a database of records from another country where they suspect the person may have come from.
    I concede that it is theoretically possible a person who holds citizenship could get deported, but it is exceedingly unlikely.

    But I think all these details are really off topic, a better subject for another discussion in another thread. The only real question is why you think Texas state enforcement would be any different from the federal level, which does happen (or is supposed to happen).
     
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    An even more basic thing is just being observed crossing the border illegally. No "accent check" required!
     

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