The 2012 Election and Where We are Now

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  1. othervoice

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    Conservative Republicans were rebuffed in their efforts to defeat President Obama last Tuesday, but Democrats especially liberals should not think the political right is in retreat. The pundits and experts are wrong about the GOP which maintains its majority in the House of Representatives and has no intention of changing its major policy positions to win elections. The political right may reach out to Hispanics on social issues and promote Latino Republicans like Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Marco Rubio of Florida and New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez. However anyone who thinks Republicans are going to embrace comprehensive immigration reform doesn't know the GOP and its base. As for Democrats and the center left they should not be over confident. Beyond keeping President Obama on a liberal track the Democratic Party needs to come up with policy ideas for jobs, growth, a balanced budget, clean energy, and progressive tax reform. Moreover they need a compelling message and a better relationship with grassroots activists for congressional races in 2014 and the Presidency in 2016. The Republican right remains a strong opponent to be reckoned with.
     
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    The tea party is dead. Obama has a mandate. The superior race won. I predicted it a year ago and I'm always right.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deep :)

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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By this time now with Romney at the helm, we should have been well on the road to recovery. Instead, the markets are in retreat, an announcements of thousands upon thousands of new layoffs been made, and the Chosen One is already on his way to the well deserved vacation in Asia. Americans be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

    Enjoy.
     
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    That is very funny,it has been less than a week since the election and you say the above and the really funny thing is you probably believe it. Anyone seen that movie dumb and dumber? :)
     
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    50% of the population realized that they can vote themselves money from 48% of the population.

    It will prove unsustainable,and catastrophic. Wait. See.



    "When the People realize that they can vote themselves money from the Treasury, that will herald the end of the Republic." -Ben Franklin (most likely).




    It will , of course STILL BE someone else's fault....
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I mention Fiscal Cliff? Just the right time to skip the town, don't you think so, my naive friend? :)
     
  8. Dasein

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    the stupid have been destroyed. enjoy the back of the bus for another 4 years.
     
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    Nice sig there Aunt Cleo. . .
     
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    I thought neocons wanted to cut spending? Elections over and you are still flip flopping.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NIce complete inability to address the point:

    50% of the population realized that they can vote themselves money from 48% of the population.

    It will prove unsustainable,and catastrophic. Wait. See.



    "When the People realize that they can vote themselves money from the Treasury, that will herald the end of the Republic." -Ben Franklin (most likely).
     
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    You are wrong and always lose to me.
     
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    superior race???
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ONLY time you have EVER been right, was this election.

    And there is nothing incorrect in what I posted. The "Hand's Out" Americans voted to increase the extortion of the Stand Up Americans.

    Capital is going to start disappearing IN EVERY direction, as actual Free Americans, as opposed to the Free Corn Pig Americans, seek to protect/preserve what is theirs, and as entrepreneurship dries up throughout the nation, you, and the rest of the Free Corn Pig Americans, will realize just who it was that actually PAID FOR the rapidly dwindling, "Free Corn".


    What's a "Free Corn Pig American"?

    One of these:


    THE TRUE PRICE OF FREE CORN

    (a parable about the wild and free hogs of the Okefenokee swamp)

    Some years ago, about 1900, an old trapper from North Dakota hitched up some horses to his Studebaker wagon, packed a few possessions— especially his traps—and drove south. Several weeks later he stopped in a small town just north of the Okefenokee Swamp in Georgia.

    It was a Saturday morning—a lazy day—when he walked into the general store. Sitting around the pot-bellied stove were seven or eight of the town’s local citizens.

    The traveler spoke. "Gentlemen, could you direct me to the Okefenokee Swamp?"

    Some of the oldtimers looked at him like he was crazy. "You must be a stranger in these parts," they said.

    "I am. I’m from North Dakota," said the stranger. "In the Okefenokee Swamp are thousands of wild hogs." one old man explained. "A man who goes into the swamp by himself asks to die!" He lifted up his leg. "I lost half my leg here, to the pigs of the swamp."

    Another old fellow said, "Look at the cuts on me; look at my arm bit off!

    Those pigs have been free since the Revolution, eating snakes and rooting out roots and fending for themselves for over a hundred years. They’re wild and they’re dangerous. You can’t trap them. No man dare go into the swamp by himself." Every man nodded his head in agreement.

    The old trapper said, "Thank you so much for the warning. Now could you direct me to the swamp?" They said, "Well, yeah, it’s due south— straight down the road." But they begged the stranger not to go, because they knew he’d meet a terrible fate.

    He said, "Sell me ten sacks of corn, and help me load it in the wagon." And they did. Then the old trapper bid them farewell and drove on down the road. The townsfolk thought they’d never see him again. Two weeks later the man came back. He pulled up to the general store, got down off the wagon, walked in and bought ten more sacks of corn. After loading it up he went back down the road toward the swamp.

    Two weeks later he returned and again bought ten sacks of corn. This went on for a month. And then two months, and three. Every week or two the old trapper would come into town on a Saturday morning, load up ten sacks of corn, and drive off south into the swamp.

    The stranger soon became a legend in the little village and the subject of much speculation. People wondered what kind of devil had possessed this man, that he could go into the Okefenokee by himself and not be consumed by the wild and free hogs.

    One morning the man came into town as usual. Everyone thought he wanted more corn. He got off the wagon and went into the store where the usual group of men were gathered around the stove. He took off his gloves.

    "Gentlemen," he said, "I need to hire about ten or fifteen wagons. I need twenty or thirty men. I have six thousand hogs out in the swamp, penned up, and they’re all hungry. I’ve got to get them to market right away."

    "You’ve WHAT in the swamp?" asked the storekeeper, incredulously. "I have six thousand hogs penned up. They haven’t eaten for two or three days, and they’ll starve if I don’t get back there to feed and take care of them."

    One of the oldtimers said, "You mean you’ve captured the wild hogs of the Okefenokee?"

    "That’s right."

    "How did you do that? What did you do?" the men urged, breathlessly.

    One of them exclaimed, "But I lost my arm!"

    "I lost my brother!" cried another.

    "I lost my leg to those wild boars!" chimed a third.

    The trapper said, "Well, the first week I went in there they were wild all right. They hid in the undergrowth and wouldn’t come out. I dared not get off the wagon. So I spread corn along behind the wagon. Every day I’d spread a sack of corn. The old pigs would have nothing to do with it."

    "But the younger pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn than it was to root out roots and catch snakes. So the very young began to eat the corn first. I did this every day. Pretty soon, even the old pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn. After all, they were all free; they were not penned up. They could run off in any direction they wanted at any time."

    "The next thing was to get them used to eating in the same place all the time. So I selected a clearing, and I started putting the corn in the clearing. At first they wouldn’t come to the clearing. It was too far. It was too open. It was a nuisance to them."

    "But the very young decided that it was easier to take the corn in the clearing than it was to root out roots and catch their own snakes. And not long thereafter, the older pigs also decided that it was easier to come to the clearing every day."

    "And so the pigs learned to come to the clearing every day to get their free corn. They could still subsidize their diet with roots and snakes and whatever else they wanted. After all, they were all free. They could run in any direction at any time. There were no bounds upon them."

    "The next step was to get them used to fence posts. So I put fence posts all the way around the clearing. I put them in the underbrush so that they wouldn’t get suspicious or upset. After all, they were just sticks sticking up out of the ground, like the trees and the brush. The corn was there every day. It was easy to walk in between the posts, get the corn, and walk back out."

    "This went on for a week or two. Shortly they became very used to walking into the clearing, getting the free corn, and walking back out through the fence posts."

    "The next step was to put one rail down at the bottom. I also left a few openings, so that the older, fatter pigs could walk through the openings and the younger pigs could easily jump over just one rail. After all, it was no real threat to their freedom or independence. They could always jump over the rail and flee in any direction at any time."

    "Now I decided that I wouldn’t feed them every day. I began to feed them every other day. On the days I didn’t feed them the pigs still gathered in the clearing. They squealed, and they grunted, and they begged and pleaded with me to feed them. But I only fed them every other day. And I put a second rail around the posts."

    "Now the pigs became more and more desperate for food. Because now they were no longer used to going out and digging their own roots and finding their own food. They now needed me. They needed my corn every other day.

    So I trained them that I would feed them every day if they came in through a gate. And I put up a third rail around the fence. But it was still no great threat to their freedom, because there were several gates and they could run in and out at will."

    "Finally I put up the fourth rail. Then I closed all the gates but one, and I fed them very, very well. Yesterday I closed the last gate. And today I need you to help me take these pigs to market."



    end of story—
    The allegory of the wild pigs has a serious moral lesson. This story is about Washington politicians using tax money to bait, trap, and enslave a once free and independent people.

    The welfare state, from "free" school lunches to old age "pensions" (SS), has reduced more than individuals to a state of dependency. State and local governments are also on the fast track to elimination, due to their functions being subverted by the command and control structures of federal "revenue sharing" programs. Please copy this story and send it to all your state and local elected leaders (and other concerned citizens). Tell them: "Just say NO to "free" federal corn---we can’t afford it."
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    says the guy who swore Palin would be president. LOL!
     
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    did i? Please provide the quote. "Lol"!
     
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    Easy enough.
     
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    Except that I never posted that.

    Altering another poster's quote is a bannable offense here, liar.
     
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    I did not alter your post and as your sig points out, you are always wrong. So why should anyone believe you?
     
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    The stupid are the ones who celebrate the accention to the throne of the worst and laziest president this country ever had. Enjoy your Santa Claus, while there' still free Obamaphones to be had :)
     
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    don't really care what losers think.
     
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    I know you don't care, not while these benefits are comin' :)
     
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    you should, they make up a big part of your voting block.
     
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    I guess that statement makes sense to people who lost to me.
     
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    lost what to you????
     

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