The American Empire Is Coming To An End

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  1. Condor060

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    Detroit. Home of the Automotive industry.
    See, I can do it too.

    So are you going to show me where in the OP it talks about immigration since you told me to read it or quote geographical facts all day?
     
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    He's barely sentient. Just this week he claimed:
    • He was Trump's VP
    • The housing bubble occurred while Trump was President
    • That he drives an 18 wheeler.
    Each claim is false, which is common with Biden, even before the dementia set in.
    We are going to try to control Canadian resource extraction? ****, no wonder the mask Karens, some folks want to arrogate control over all kinds of things they have no legitimate authority over. Canada, since they can't count on us, will simply build infrastructure to their coasts, and then ship the oll overseas. And when the time comes that we need Canadian water, they will remember how we tried to prevent them from extracting their own resources.

    There have been 15 Democrat Presidents. Your measurement attempts to exclude 9 of the 15! That certainly sparks the interest.

    A minimum set of a 100 is generally the smallest possible unit from which to form predictions. You are taking a potential list of 15 and cutting it to six, which makes no sense at all for predictive purposes, unless you are actually just cherry picking for a fake narrative rather than truly evaluating data from which to form predictions.

    Further, it is the House that has the major authority over the budget, the Senate next and the President merely signs it.

    Next, for some strange reason you not only cut out the 9 Presidents previous to 1947, and Truman's first two years, but you cut out ALL of Obama. Curious. This doesn't look like an honest attempt at comparison at all.

    For Republicans, it's even worse. There have been 19 GOP Presidents. Your measurement excludes 12 of them!

    Very sad. Your claim appears to have no more merit than Biden's claim that he drove an 18 wheeler.
     
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    You're scrambling, Democrats do bett6 than the GOP, much better than tRump. 8)
     
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    Democrats Hate America First Because We Are Racist, Wear Masks Vaccinated or Unvaccinated While We Stash Covid Illegals In Your Cities Without Telling You, Biden going into fact-free rants while Kamala breaks out her inappropriate "I'm Horny" giggle whenever she doesn't know what else to do, and Defund The Police While We Have Private security isn't playing as well as you think it is.

    RIOTS FOR THEE, BUT NOT FOR ME: Democrats want police protection for themselves, not for the rest of us.

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    Calls for defunding police for us, while spending "donations" of $70,000 in 3 months for private security.​
    It's not America's Empire that is coming to an end, we have no empire. Rather, it's Dems illegitimate exercises of power that are coming to an end as the forces of Freedom and Liberty respond to these attacks on our civil rights.
     
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    Speculation. We are what we are because of immigrants. 200 yrs ago thru today.
     
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  6. Flynn from Az

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    We aren’t immigrants though. Immigration is the life blood of America, but that whole we came from immigrants is so cliche. Everyone in the world has immigrants in their family tree.
     
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    Okay so you are saying we are getting resources not revenue from these countries. Can you give me an example where the government bullied another country to help Exxon and that government revenue overall was benefitted?
     
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    We are what we are because of a lot of things. It's weird to me that you only associate America with immigrants, but weirder still is that your multiple immigrant posts have nothing to do with the thread.
     
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    lolololol

    should we begin in 1952 and restrict ourselves to the middle east?

    government revenue is immaterial, as exxon probably pays very little in taxes.

    do citizens benefit in lower gas prices? i filled up today. no one gave me the gasoline.

    nevertheless, when oil company profits are in danger, shock and awe are not far behind.

    "the business of america is business" coolidge
     
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    NATO felt Kuwait was worth defending. Doesn't change the fact that the US was not the aggressor.
     
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    The US and NATO have the means to ensure that innocent civilians don't get caught up in civil war and stop or aid humanitarian crisises.
     
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    That was Gulf War I. Gulf War II was under Bush Junior.
     
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    Go to the posters who brought immigration into the thread.
    I only responded.
     
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    It's all the same thing.

    Gulf War 2 was a continuation of Gulf 1 when saddam was allowed to stay in power and Iraq was imposed sanctions to ensure he didn't attack his neighbors again. Gulf War 2 , is because saddam willfully violated the terms of the sanctions continuously.
     
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    How?
     
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    How did he willfully not comply?
     
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    What sanctions did he break?
     
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    That's true, but only a blind person can not see those cracks were created by implementation of both Marxist and Facist ideals. With every new regulation and law comes a little more Facism and a little less freedom. With every new handout (cough, 'entitlement') comes a little more Socialism/Marxism and a little less freedom.

    I don't necessarily agree with the OP because I see it for what it is, but it seems to me a fair-minded person can see this country is in a heap of ****....made perfectly clear over the last 9 months.
     
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    The biggest part of the sanctions was limiting what weapons he had in his arsenal and those he was allowed to manufacture and possess.

    The UN was tasked with overseeing his military arms production to ensure compliance with sanction requirements.

    For years, Saddam willfully and intentionally kicked inspectors out, disallowed inspection in certain areas, etc.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...un-weapons-inspectors-told-to-leave-iraq/amp/

    Saddam played games for years before the US had enough and removed him from power.
     
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    I’d have to disagree a bit.
    Even though there’s a left right paradigm at play in the country as far as culture goes,, I don’t see it as the main driver of our decline. Too be completely honest, it’s more illusion than anything.
    The political structure in America is dominated by a center right party, and a rightwing reactionary party.
    There’s no Marxism in America, and there’s nothing leftwing about the Democratic party. Sure, they play a good tune, and virtue signal with the best of them, and their base is fooled by it, but that’s as far as it goes. Look at who they puked up as a alternative to Trump, if you don’t believe me. The right wing alternative is no different. They do the little nationalism jig to fire up their base, and yet taking their marching orders from the same corporate bamksters as the democrats. The corrupting forces don’t care about nationalism, Marxism, or the country.
    So the only real choice is a sugar coated dog turd, and a regular dog turd.

    Our decline is directly related the actions of the politically elite class, and their money men who have obtained power by unchecked capitalism.
    I think the only real debate is about America’s aristocracy class, is their motives. More conspiracy prone people say that their sucking America dry, and turning the country into a shell of its former self is by grand design, but I don’t buy into that at all. I see the ruling class as greedy, and inept which is more in line with human nature.
     
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    Depends on your point of perspective. If one views everybody as a victim, as the entity best suited to take care of people, and prioritizes collectivism over individualism, then you're probably right Democrats are better.
     
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    True...he was a dictator, who hated to be told what to do...but those "weapons" that were banned were never found, although the gas WMD were probably moved to Syria.
     
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    Doesn't matter. Simply disallowing inspections was enough.
     
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    He eventually gave in and allowed them. The inspectors wanted additional time to complete their inspection, which the U.S. denied and proceeded with the invasion.
     
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    The UN was constantly pandering to him. The US wanted to jump back in the first time he played games. The UN didn't. We back down. Then again, then again, then again. Finally, we said **** it and took him out of power.

    We waited too long in my opinion.
     

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