The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Just don't tell Buzz he didn't walk on the moon
[video=youtube;FUI36tPKDg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4[/video]

 

It is fun to watch conspiratards get a serious reality check after they start believing their own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) just a little too much.

 

You will have a hard time convincing the astronauts they were not on the moon.

 

You can't have dust-free sand that will hold a boot print.

Notice, too, that the sand all blows away from the rocket exhaust without any roiling. This is only possible in a vacuum.

 

I've seen lots of photos of detailed bootprints but I've never seen one of them being made so it's plausible that they used finer soil for those photos. The prints I've seen being made are always too far away to see if they're detailed. If you know of some footage of a detailed bootprint being made, could you post a link to it?

Here's a video on the subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S30XLds5gc

I don't see anything here that's inconsistent with atmosphere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_OD2V6fMLQ
(5:40 time mark)

This is the first time I've ever seen the word "Roiling".
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/roiling
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roil

Please explain why the behavior of the soil blowing away as the LEM is landing in the above video is inconsistent with atmpsphere.

Please tell us if you agree with Jay Windly on this issue.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990

 

I've been reading a lot about the possibility of moon landings being faked- Tough to really figure out what really happened- the one thing that keeps standing out in my mind is this: Can we confirm that flags/etc are still physically on the moon? I would think the technology is good enough where we could see what might be still on the moon as far as evidence-correct? If there is something there- is there any other way it could have been planted there? That to me seems to be the one thing that no one could dispute.....

 

How's this? You can clearly see the landing craft and the LRV, which could possibly be planted, but how does one fake the trails?

Moonbats pretending we never landed on the moon might have stood a chance if we only went to the moon once, but we didn't. Pretending we faked it time and time again given the massive amounts of exposure each time makes the plausibility of faking everything and pulling it off for this long approach absolute zero.

 

I guess my follow up would be- how do we know those photos are real? Where did they come from? If they came from NASA then how would we know if it's authentic?

 

How do we know these photos are authentic? Where did they come from?

 

Those are photographs from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter back in 2009. One can always claim everything is faked, in which case there is nothing to discuss as denial is rarely based on either facts or reality. Here is an article on third party evidence of the Apollo moon landings. Time will tell. Eventually other countries are going to make it to the moon with equipment sensitive enough to see the truth, but there will always be those who will deny it even then.

 

Those pictures were fakable so they prove nothing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

...and they don't make the mountain of hoax proof go away.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001964&postcount=1

The anomalies in the footage and still pictures have already proved the hoax so the issue is closed. The people still saying it really happened also say the Chinese spacewalk was real so they aren't to be taken seriously.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-...20-1969-sir-questions-sir-12.html#post4767755

 

There are people seriously confused enough to think that we are not smart enough or capable enough to go to the moon, yet smart enough and capable enough to fake something forever.

 

Go to post #4 on page 1 of this thread and read the info on space radiation. If it turns out that space radiation really is so dangerous that humans can't go more than five hundrred miles up without six feet of lead shielding, we don't have the technology to go to the moon. The anomalies have already proved they faked it and space radiation was probably why they had to fake it. In radiation-free space man could go pretty far I suppose.

 

A fabrication.......try again scott


six feet of lead shielding...<eyeroll>

 

SIX FEET of lead? Just how much radiation do you think is out there? Lead has a halving thickness of .4 inches. That means for every .4 inches of lead you have, you cut the amount of gamma radiation in half. Quick math shows that 6' = 72" at .4" per halving gives you 180 halves. Since x halves are the inverse of 2 to xth power, we can calculate how much less radiation one would receive over the same amount of time by taking the inverse of 2^180. Thus the initial radiation past six feet of lead would give you 1/1,532,495,540,865,888,858,358,347,027,150,300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 the amount of initial radiation. Just how much radiation do you think there IS in space?

 

I have no way of knowing for sure; the only people who can say for sure are people with high-level security clearances who can see the real data. The theory is that the government gives a set of bogus data to the public and only shows the real data to people who need to know.

http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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There seems to be enough alternative info out there to cause a thinking person to wonder whether the government is telling us the truth about nature and levels of space radiation.
http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g

The government lies about so many things that no thinking person would simply take its word.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4731597&postcount=1087

The only thing I can be sure about is that the Apollo footage the government made public was taken in a studio as it's full of anomalies that wouldn't be there if it had been taken on the moon.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

They definitely faked it and the idea that they had to fake it because of space radiation is very plausible.

 

Sounds like a nice piece of paranoid delusions and a certified bull(*)(*)(*)(*) excuse for not having to address the facts. So ALL nations are in on this high level conspiracy to keep data away from you? We're not the only country who has been in space or measured the radiation there. So why do you pretend it is some big secret they are holding from you?

 

The bottom line is that all we have is second-hand information on the nature and levels of space radiation. Only a person with a naive willingness to believe would simply take it as fact as behind-the-scenes deals can be madwe between governments.

Anyway, the anomalies in the footage have already proved Apollo was a hoax...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001964&postcount=1

...so the radiation issue isn't about whether they faked it. It's about why they had to fake it.

 

And frankly that is a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor and cowardly excuse for the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you post here on a regular basis. Basing your "facts" on pretending you've been lied to from the start with zero evidence to back either your claims or your belief you've been lied to up shows just how desperately weak your entire

So how (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid does someone have to be to pretend every government is lying and that their facts and figures are somehow right? You DO realize just how retarded your claim is, right?

Oh, BTW, it isn't just governments that have gone into space. Now you have to include all kinds of companies. Just how big ARE your paranoid delusions? Is EVERYONE who doesn't buy into your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out to get you?

No, your silly videos haven't proven anything no matter how much you like to pretend. They just prove some people are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid they can't extract their head from their ass long enough to form a coherent thought.

So you start with a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) premise (they lied about the radiation) to prove they faked the moon landings to ask the question why they had to fake it. When you start with crap you will end with crap. Simple as that. I am sure these facts are hard on the ol' ego, but don't you think it is time to start facing the truth about life rather than hiding behind lies?

 

As I said back in post #286, you pro-Apollo posters maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real so none of you are to be taken seriously.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-...20-1969-sir-questions-sir-12.html#post4767755

The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked is so clear that it makes a good objectivity test. There is a point at which things are so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective.

 

So you make up a lie about me and "what I maintain" and then pretend that is proof? MAN are you getting desperate!!!!! The only one around here who has lost all credibility and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously can be seen if you look in a mirror. OOOH! MAGIC! There you are! Is that fake too?

 

Ha! I had a great time debunking this stuff on the Pravda English forum a while back. I went over photographs and videos and learned quite a bit about the missions in the process.

As for debunking the hoax claims here, I'll cut straight to this:

[video=youtube;sk5GiF_mX5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk5GiF_mX5w[/video]

Observe how the dust (the regolith, that is) behaves as the astronaut is shoveling it. It's a fine powder, obviously, yet it never billows or clumps - it's a dry powder in a vacuum. You can also see it behaving likewise in any video where they're moving around, kicking the stuff with their astro-boots. There ain't no faking that in an atmosphere. Even the movies could never manage it.

Edit to add: the stuff also flies a pretty good distance despite very little effort being made by the astronaut. Same also with the stuff that gets kicked by their boots. This is evidence both of the vacuum and of the lower gravity.

 

I remember that stuff.. The bits of debris were supposedly water bubbles Well, sorry to break it to ya, but the Chinese have made it into space. I do hope they'll get to the moon as well, as planned.

 

This was explained a long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S30XLds5gc

You're trying to sway those viewers who haven't seen the explanations.

Tell us whether you agree with Jay Windley's analysis of this issue.

This is who Jay Windley is.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

I asked Jay to address this issue.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907

Here's his response.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990

 

Ah, JayUtah! I'm a fan of his from at the Bad Astronomy / Universe Today forum, actually. Yeah, he's one of the best for answering conspiracy claims.

By the way, which way did you think I was arguing? Because I agree with Jay on, well, everything. I'm saying that video of the regolith being shoveled and kicked around demonstrates beyond any doubt that, yes, the landings were genuine. Of course, that's ignoring the mountains of other evidence in their favor.