The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion?

We finally found the atheist god of the lack!

God is Nothingness: Awakening to Absolute Non-being
by Andre Doshim Halaw

Contrary to popular opinion, God is not a Supreme Being, but the exact opposite—Absolute Nothingness. In fact, the entire reason that people suffer is because they are attached to 'being', and fail to understand that Non-being is the very basis of existence itself. In the immortal words of the Tao Te Ching, "All things are born of being; being is born of Nothingness."The most realistic way to explain what GOD is and isn't. How can GOD be something else than Nothingness. Once you understand the meaning of GOD you can experience GOD itself.


In Nothingness everything is created. From nothing, everything starts.
I have been following the Taoist way for a while and studying the meaning of our true nature. I can truly relate to this book as it explains in modern talk what many sages have tried to explain to us since thousands of yeas ago. Be still and experience GOD, you wont be able to locate or understand what GOD means, you can only be it. Close your eyes, and you will see much clearer. A must read book. Very short and precise. No bullshit only Truth. (less)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22511079-god-is-nothingness

Chaos

A primordial void, nothingness. This god was asexual and had children himself, most notable Erebus and Nyx. The Latin poet Ovid gave "chaos" the meaning of unorder.

The Nothingness, also known as Chaos, or the Void and Abyss is a world featured in Greek Mythology. It first appears in around 700 BCE and ends around 9th Century.
http://www.thehellenictimes.com/persona.html

Pemba

is the African God of Nothing and comes from the mythology of Africa.


Could atheism in reality be the only true religion, should we convert to worshiping Chaos or Pemba?

 

I think there may be some confusion, here. You see, atheists don't really think about any of this at all, in general. When is the last time you pondered unicorns and the significance of their lack of existcene? Never, I wager.

 

Yeah, nothing says "hot" like deafening silence.

 

You cant be serious can you? We have at least 2 militiant atheists on this board and that is all they think about. Start a thread about unicorns and we will all think about them

Not "hot", "too" hot!

 

Of course, this is false. It just happens to be discussed here, as this 8s a discussion forum. No, I can be certain they leave that here, while you, on the other hand, pursue your magical nonsense 24/7.

 

sure, I posted a link in the op, we have nothing from you but hot air.

 

I think many of us are still waiting for you to answer the outstanding questions from all the threads you ran away from about 4 months ago.

I lack belief, I am an atheist.

 

More empty pointless words.

God is cheese.

 

atheists claim they lack, which is nothing, therefore it follows that God is nothing.
What makes you think God is cheese?

 

Lol, I do have an honest question for you. Why is this such an obsession with you? All of your questions on this have been answered a million times. I mean you are a person of faith, I am not, there are many other problems with your faith, not just that it's faith, why so much focus on this one definition?

 

Atheism is not a religion as you know..

You have been schooled and educated on that fact.

 

DO it and see.
You start the thread. Or you are simply full of BS

 

How are you tying this to Atheism?

 

Through word salad.

 

Its interesting even fascinating watching the militant atheists claim theists are nuts while at the same time arguing that atheists are the 'rational' ones despite the fact they have no rational basis for their beliefs/religion.

Nope wrong again.

I am a person of no faith what so ever because I am agnostic, atheists and theists have faith, but even with that I am not foolish enough to claim I dont have a religion.

Atheists have faith no God exists, theists have faith God exists, agnostics dont buy into any of it.

Atheists are lockstep with theists and claim they are not a religion, dont you find that humorous?

A far more interesting question is why atheists deny their faith?

Atheists claim no God, no religion.

The great void of atheism!

Atheists proudly worship the god of nothing, zero, nada.

The 'Lack'.

Lack, void, nothing are all synonyms.

Very easy to tie it all together.

I suppose they didnt know that gods exist that are a perfect match for their belief system. What a paradox!

A more interesting question is how do you separate it?

 

Ahh I get it. You can't tie it to atheism, but you desperately wish you could. Just another "Atheism is a religion" post, that tired old attempt to undercut unbelievers by insisting they are believers after all.

Kind of seems like with the amount of effort the religious expend trying to turn Atheism into faith, they must not be very secure in their own faith. The logic of Atheism must really bother you on some level, which is why you try to "attack" it.

 

Dont think for a second I am going to go through arguing the atheist loonacy again that 'disbelief' is any different than 'belief not', if thats the argument you want to make I suggest going to school so you can learn why they are the same.

When you believe something that you have no proof for you believe it on 'faith', atheists cannot prove their is no G/god, I could care less the reason yet they have intense faith they are correct.

One of the main premises in theist religions is 'faith', atheists are simply in denial as usual.

 

Funny. One of the very first things I learned in school was to ability to tell the difference between something and nothing. Perhaps if you had attended school you wouldn’t have such difficulty separating the two.

Further, if you had stayed in school long enough you would have learned about claims and evidence and burden of proof. It’s the faithful that insist their god exists but cannot provide any evidence to support their claim. Atheists see the lack of evidence and refuse to accept the delusion pushed by the faithful.

To break it down:
You assert something exists, you must provide evidence for its existence.
If you can’t do that, people are not only free to reject your claim, but absolutely should.
It is not nor will it ever be the burden of those refusing to believe your fantasy to prove your fantasy is a fantasy.

No matter how desperately you wish it were.

People of faith like you are especially hilarious. You’re so angry at Atheists for not just buying into your psychosis. You’re so angry at them for presenting logical arguments you can’t refute, so much so that you’re willing if not eager to impeach the rules of logic in order to shift the burden of proof off of yourself.

But it doesn’t work. Nobody is fooled. Your position is as transparent as glass, and everyone can see through your arguments and into your deep internal uncertainty regarding your own faith. For better or worse the human brain operates on logical consistency, and that’s true even of the faithful. Once your faith becomes questioned in a way you can’t resolve internally it just festers in there forever, producing furious denials and assertive arguments heavy on the mental gymnastics and light on logical arguments.

You should save yourself a lot of turmoil and just honestly sit down and think your faith out instead of taking it out on people who didn’t get indoctrinated at birth into your bizarre death cult.

 

I am about as honest as anyone can get, I am agnostic and as I said not foolish enough to come out here and claim I have no religion like the atheists do,

great so fill us in on how much something 'Lack' is?
BTW, Everyone here knows I am agnostic, I dont buy into either side.

 

An agnostic theist at best. You don’t know god exists but you believe he does. Which describes every religious person who ever lived, in truth.

Regardless, the rules of logic remain despite your best efforts. Your argument is absurd unsubstantiated fluff mixed with mental contortionism. If someone asserts that something exists, but evidence for its existence can not be gathered, that thing does not exist.

Dismissing your religious claims for lack of ability to gather evidence to support it does not make me religious. There are any number of imaginary things I also claim do not exist. Am I religious about their non-existence too?

Give up. This line of reasoning was doomed from the start. You don’t get to just insist people are what you want them to be because it makes you more comfortable with yourself. The more zealous you sound and the less willing you are to engage in honest discussion the more your credibility slips away.

 

Exceedingly well put and chase cutting.

 

So something based upon an assumption, atheism, is totally different from religion, which is based upon an assumption? Until atheists admit, or can see of their own assumptions, they will continue to live in a particular form of ignore-ance.

 

Though atheism can be seen to be an "assumption" if one decides to dig deep enough, it would be an assumption based on data, or a lack thereof. Religion however would be an assumption of accuracy on data which lacks verification and has quite a bit of data that shows it inaccurate. In religion it is assumed/believed there is a God and yours is it regardless of all other choices. In Atheism it is assumed none of them are gods....basically an Atheist simply believes in one less God than the Theist.

 

Well, nobody has ever met or seen or even found any evidence of a god, so obviously the most rational position is to believe that the thing you have no reason to believe exists doesn't exist. However, it isn't just that for you. You have started thread after thread and been the primary poster in any thread on the subject, this goes beyond entertainment, this is an obsession for you.

So, where is this coming from? In other words, are you trying to convince yourself that this is true? Or, do you think that if you convince some other person that some of these things might magically become true? You very obviously have faith and care very much about it, why the fear of the label?

 

So what data do you have that evidences, scientifically, that philosophical materialism, on which materialistic science is based, (matter is the fundamental of reality) is actually fact? For I listen to the brightest minds on this topic and from what they say, there isn't any, and it is just the nature of it. In fact, one might have to remove himself from this universe, stand outside it, in order to have a chance of discerning the truth of this very old question and argument.

Fact is, the idea that matter is fundamental, is only an assumption that was made, and science has this underlying assumption. And of course, if matter is fundamental, and not something outside of this material universe, then of course there is nothing else. There is also philosophical idealism which maintains the possibility that consciousness is fundamental, and the truth is, there is no way in hell, so far, to evidence either materialism or idealism. They have to be assumptions because of this.

Atheists play these games, but it is just an intellectual game. It takes a philosopher to call them out on it, and I have seen it done countless times in my own life. For science cannot answer this question and you damn well should know it. Yet atheists act as if this questioning does not even exist, even when made by very bright intellectuals. Some of them physicists, who don't get any airtime.

So you are doing nothing but making assumptions, and many times the people who do this are not even aware of those assumptions. Sure they may be good assumptions, but that doesn't change the fact of the assumption.