The Attempt to Establish a Climate Ministry of Truth

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I'd suggest you visit the NASA or NOAA sites.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, I have said that in total agreement.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You'll have to explain your idea here.

    I don't know of anything related to climate that Biden "launches".

    If you are interested in oceans and dams, I'd suggest looking up the city of Miami Beach and the city of New Orleans - two places where dams against the rising ocean are significant to the local population.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I have been to Cape Canaveral. I even studied this topic for many years now.
     
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    ???

    That is TOTALLY irrelevant.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought you declared you know about launches. If that is not true, you talk funny.

    Don't you think Biden would launch to get rid of your problem?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will you get a person to read my posts to you and when you get that quizzical look on your face. they can explain it to you?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you told me that is not relevant. So why do that?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, why when you assert it is not relevant?
     
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    ???
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    So you can learn about what these agencies do, and can read their findings on climate change.
     
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    ?? This discussion is NOT about rocketry.

    It's about the study of Earth.
     
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    I think it's pretty clear. The unimproved value of land is created by the community, not the owner, therefore rightly belongs to the community that creates it, not the owner, and modern mainstream neoclassical economics was deliberately corrupted and falsified to prevent understanding of that fact.
    Nope. At least the current admittedly horrible system's burden isn't forced entirely on producers and consumers.
    Of course it can. That is its purpose. The greedy, privileged, parasitic, super-duper uber-rich can easily use the "Fair"tax to not pay any taxes by the simple expedient of doing all their consuming in countries that don't tax consumption. Ordinary citizens don't have that option. The only purpose of the "Fair"tax is to exempt the rich from taxation and force producers and consumers to subsidize the privileged even more than they already do.
    Only fools, economic ignorami, and servants of privilege support sales taxes. Japan introduced a sales tax in 1990 and it instantly wrecked the economy. They have increased it twice since then, and each time, it wrecked the economy. Someone doesn't seem to care that sales taxes wreck economies.
    Then you don't know anybody who knows any economics, or anyone who lives in a jurisdiction with a substantial sales tax.
     
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    That is absolutely true, and absolutely unaffected by the fact that the change in question will be almost entirely natural, and the human-caused part of it will ameliorate those serious problems.
     
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    Actually value is driven up not by just the community, by buyers, buyers who can get good jobs, live in great weather, have excellent schools in walking distance. But that was not intentionally done by the community. It was just how economics works.

    Where the community holds title, definitely it reaps the rewards of the market as I describe the market.
     
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    The FAIR TAX definitely is a lot more FAIR than our current bastardized system.


    A single simple tax system that can't be used to not pay taxes.

    Sales tax taxes the purchasers. That is entirely fair. We are all purchasers of Government, Why not allow we customers to pick what we want from the corrupt Government?
     
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    So your intent is punishment. And of course you punish the payers who will be happy to pay the tax, but as a sales tax. But you will not have any of that freedom. Why not?

    We have sales taxes in most of the states. I see prosperity there. But you won't allow that either. All you want is to know our incomes so we can be punished.
     
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    Nobody here mentions Japan. Are you one of their citizens?

    We would have around 45 states with wrecked economies if the fair tax ruined economies.

    So you love our incomes be disclosed to the Democrats? I would love then for you to publish your tax returns.

    When we go to Sales Taxes, you won't need returns. You paid your taxes the moment you purchased. No more deductions to worry about. Fire your accountant. But you are loyal to the accountants it seems.
     
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    I believe we have posters, Biden supporters, who believe in witchcraft. Witches supposedly controlled climate.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Next time do not mention NASA.
     
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    BS, I do not believe in witchcraft. Next you will tell me that NASA sets homes on fire.

    If you believe you change climate, you definitely are using the Witchcraft book.
     
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    What is your chant that can chill Earth?
     
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    Let me help you.
    As you are a human, I believe, it is your fault earth climate changed.
    From the time you were an infant, you plotted to warm earth.
    And as a Teen smoking weed back of the house, you were killing earth.
    I tried to defend you and you kept fighting me.
     
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    That's not what the vast majority of scientists in all the related fields and all over the world are stating.

    So, what are you claiming?

    Are you claiming that YOU know better?

    Are you claiming that there is a world wide conspiracy?

    I'm just curious.
     
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    This sums it up pretty well.
    How Climate Change Pseudoscience Became Publicly Accepted
     
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