There are basic problems which divide the left and right and I can see no way they can be reasoned out. 1) There is inequality. The right beleives it is because blacks are either stupid genetically or have a culture that encourages bad choices the left attribute it to racism 2) The left Black people areenititled to pay back of various sorts from full blown reparations right down to affirmative action and special projects. The right doesn't beleive that people inherit such debts I am with the right on this. I also think that since the ;left side relies on shouting down, violence, deceit and rhetoric then there can never be a solution.
I don't think the far-right want to improve race-relations. They just want to justify their racism by any means. Claiming people are genetically stupid is just an insult. Claiming their culture is bad without recognizing the racism that shaped their culture is dishonest. So long as you continue to be racist racism will be a problem. Fortunately racism has been put in check. In the United States our society is becoming less racist and over time as people come to see that Democrats have the best political policies I think that race-relations will improve.
Strawman, "The right" doesn't believe that at all. The right believes that if blacks were allowed to become independent of government, they would prosper and thrive just as all people who are independent do. Conservatives have been fighting for equality for all, for 250 years. Liberal/progressives have been in the subjugation and dependence business for minorities since their inception. Sure, they sell their poison to their constituents as soda pop, but it's poison all the same. Everything they do creates government dependence and thereby destroys Liberty. The most egregious injustice perpetrated upon blacks in modern times is that they have been stripped of their independence, and lured instead into government programs, from which there is no escape, that have subjugated them, and disenfranchised the father figure from the family unit. It has been an intentional and systematic destruction of their ability to operate independently in our society, under the guise of compassionate benevolence, perpetrated by the democrats, since the early 1960's. The black community, in general, cannot be anything other than they are, under the current system, and it will take really harsh measures, and generations to repair the damage democrats done to them before they can truly be independent and functional in modern society. Conservatives are to blame only in their failure to prevent democrats from maintaining their programs of modern slavery.
Democrats are wholly to blame for the current pitiful state of the black community, and their inability to do anything about it. They are KEPT there by the very programs that democrats claim were designed to help them. It's a smoke and mirrors game, diabolically conceived by LBJ to maintain slavery. He said: "We'll keep those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s voting democrat for the next 200 years!", and so far, he's doing just that.
So in your world only the the left does this ? = "left side relies on shouting down, violence, deceit and rhetoric " ? TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
Race relations are getting worse because of (*)(*)(*)(*) like black lives matter. You may be insulted but its true. You do have a culture that encourages failure. You cant do much about your low IQ but you can change your stupid culture. - - - Updated - - - Look at Jamaica. Its third world. If US blacks became independent they would just become a corrupt third world (*)(*)(*)(*)hole in a generation
My culture? And what exactly is my culture in your opinion? You think because I'm Black that you should associate me with the dysfunctional elements of my community? How is that not blatant racism? I have a very high IQ so that's not my problem. I recommend that instead of trying to lecture other people about their alleged problems you worry about yourself. For example your racism isn't helping to solve any of the world's problems. Maybe you need to reevaluate your hateful ideology and adopt a more productive philosophy on life.
>>>MOD EDIT Quoted Post Deleted<<< The rise of the welfare state in the 1960s contributed greatly to the demise of the black family as a stable institution. The out-of-wedlock birth rate among African Americans today is 73%, three times higher than it was prior to the War on Poverty. Children raised in fatherless homes are far more likely to grow up poor and to eventually engage in criminal behavior, than their peers who are raised in two-parent homes. In 2010, blacks (approximately 13% of the U.S. population) accounted for 48.7% of all arrests for homicide, 31.8% of arrests for forcible rape, 33.5% of arrests for aggravated assault, and 55% of arrests for robbery. Also as of 2010, the black poverty rate was 27.4% (about 3 times higher than the white rate), meaning that 11.5 million blacks in the U.S. were living in poverty. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672
Percent of Welfare recipients who are black‎: ‎39.8 ... Percent of recipients who are white‎: ‎38.8 . http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ Now of course we know that blacks are a minority of the population approx.12 percnt of the total pop. Now I think most understand the implications of that....unfortunately some on this board do not.....aka the percentage of blacks receiving welfare is way out of proportion in regards to their percentage of the total population.
You said something negative to me in a non-voting poll on a racial issue. Now, I run across you in this thread, touting your supposed superior IQ and I believe you bait people on these race issues. I don't know what world you live in, but does a wise man have to proclaim his superiority in most of his posts? Wouldn't we all instinctively realize that you were highly intelligent by the compelling arguments you could make? I'm not so convinced of your intellectual superiority. This is NOT a debate forum; it is merely a discussion forum. Furthermore, in no debate rules have I ever heard of a participant being able to tout their intellectual superiority as any part of the debate. Now, having said that, America is a "racist" nation if you acknowledge that if you have an opinion regarding race you qualify as being "racist" There are many kinds of racists in America. There are white racists, Black Lives Matter racists, and many other kinds of racists. Jews want a separate homeland; therefore, many whites contend that Jews are a race (since their Jewishness - if that's a word) is predicated on their genetic makeup. The point is with that is if whites see another culture as a race, it doesn't matter whether you agree that a group is a race, the person with an opposing view sees it like that and their opinions are dictated by that outlook. There are many people who do not believe they are superior to other races, but maintain that they want to be separate from others. Every civilization that has ever fallen was preceded by a mixing of cultures, religions, races, etc. In America we've had this tendency to give the race issue to the white racists that are predominantly non-Christian / Darwinian and National Socialist in their world view. The other kind of "racist" that we never acknowledge is the average guy that wants to maintain his own culture and not be a part of the mixed multitude. Some of these people hide behind more palatable personalities like Donald Trump or the Tea Party with their sometimes flawed reasoning (though with a good intention, in some instances.) For the people with a bona fide objection to the liberal transformation of America, they lack a competent voice.
I tend to bring up my exceptionally high intelligence when it is being attacked. If you're going to be intellectually honest you should acknowledge that Sab did in fact accuse me of having a low IQ before I told him my IQ was higher than his. As for racists not having a voice, well that is their problem. I recognize that there are different types of racists including Black racists. Pointing out other types of racists doesn't make a person any less racist. Most people by the way don't consider Jews to be a race. That is an idea usually promoted by Neo-Nazi, White Supremacists. Judaism is a religion and while some Jews regard themselves as an ethnicity they don't think of themselves as a race nor are they racial supremacists. Zionist Jews defend the creation of the state of Israel as a religious and ethnic homeland. People tend to confuse the concepts of race and ethnicity. They are not the same. An ethnicity is a social group that shared a common and distinctive religion, language or culture. A race is a population that is genetically distinct from other populations to the extent that it can be classified as a separate breeding population or subspecies. Hispanics and Muslims like Jews can be considered different ethnic groups while groups such as Blacks and Whites are often regarded as separate races although in a scientific sense they are not.
No he showed a slightly higher percentage of blacks are on welfare than a percentage of whites are on welfare. Since Blacks make up only 14% of the population, the total number of blacks pales in comparison.
I won't get into a fight where someone says something and you feel a need to respond. You kind of remind me of Donald Trump. Trump touts his money (and exaggerates his net worth) always insinuating he's superior to someone else. Then he responds to an allegation of putting family into the debate. I'm not as intellectually superior to everyone else; I'm just not amused by people responding to a wrong with yet another wrong. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right. With respect to race. While there are dictionary definitions that serve to stroke the egos of hair splitters, an average white racist sees the White, Anglo - Saxon, Scandinavian, Germanic, Teutonic and kindred peoples as a race. likewise if you're dark, you may identify with the black race - as does Barack Obama. If the Jews see themselves as being a genetic type (and they do) then they and their adversaries have a world view of a Jewish race. At the end of the day, it's based on them having a lot of the same genetic traits versus what they believe. In the beginnings of the United States, the founding fathers wrote laws to pertain to the white race. You and I might argue dictionary definitions, but if you were Irish, Germanic, English, etc. then most likely you qualified as being "white." If you were half black, black, or Chinese you were not white. From what I see the argument has always been about creating a division within the whites. By contrast, the blacks have a certain culture. They gravitate towards the same interests, religious beliefs, and preoccupations. They have a culture and it doesn't matter whether they are Beyonce tan or Ethiopian black, they (on the whole) accept each other as being black. Nobody questions their blackness - not even when they are half white. The issue with the masses is that they want to split hairs in a vain effort to divide the white people, instill a guilt complex in them, and deny to them their Right to maintain a separate culture that suits their collective interests.
The post shows nearly 40% of welfare recipients are black and nearly 39% are white. Is basic reading beyond you?
You're changing your argument. You previously claimed the other poster was showing more whites are on food stamps than blacks when his data showed more blacks are on food stamps than whites.
I believe that over half of all Americans are financially dependent, to some degree, upon government welfare programs, and that some disproportionate number of those are minorities. I further believe that "increasing the number of people who are government dependent, and KEEPING them that way", is a common aspect to nearly everything the ruling elite, and particularly the left, proposes and supports, under the guise of benevolent compassion.
