The birth of ISIS and how the Bush Administration is totally to blame

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/ If there was ever any doubt who the people were, who were 100% to blame for the birth of ISIS, your doubting days are over, once you watch this special by Frontline.

I will have to warn you though, that after watching it, all I wanted to do was vomit in disgust at how the Bush Administration manipulated us into a war with Iraq, while using Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as the front man for lies to take us into war. Instead of killing Zarqawi when we had the chance, before the war, Bush, Cheney, Scooter Libby, and others used Zarqawi to sell the war. They needed Zarqawi to tie him with Bin Laden, and Saddam at that time, to justify the invasion. Then, when the initial invasion was over, now steps in Zarqawi who was silently building a force of suicide bombers, which proved to be very effective, and also summoned another surge by the Bush Administration around 06. When they finally got Zarqawi and the war ended, the residual force of Zarqawi went into hiding by the time Obama was elected, only to reemerge with another leader, another name, and a well financed terrorist group, calling themselves ISIS.

Then I ask myself the obvious question, "WHY"? And the answer is simple. With hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's killed, and family members lost to an invasion predicated on total 100% fabrications of WMD's, it should come to no surprise by anyone why we now have ISIS. And, it is no surprise that it is spreading around the world.

This will go down as the worst foreign policy disaster "ever" for this country. And for this treasonous premeditated act, over 4000 of our best lost their lives for no good reason, and no one from the Bush Administration is prosecuted.

Like I said, watch it, but make sure you bring a bucket with you when you sit down. It's disgusting.

When do we prosecute these guys for the birth of ISIS?

 

I have been a fan of Frontline in the past, but more recently I have found they don't always stick to the facts.

That said.. I'm going to watch the video.

 

i would not doubt that the Bush administration and even Obama, lent a blind eye to the growth of Al Qaeda in Iraq/Islamic State in Iraq, hoping they would give enough support to the Syrian rebels to overthrow Assad.

but I don't believe for a second that we knowingly and willingly aided and supported ISIS in its early or later form.

we may have stupidely assisted groups that ended up having defectors join ISIS, but thats as close as it gets

 

I love the smell of partisan bigotry in the morning... smells like.... cow poo..

 

Ok so you realize that it is all Obama,s fault that ISIS developed. The reason that BO let ISIS form is because BO is a Muslim , Albert a secret Muslim who had the of Nixon bowling ally in the Whute House remodeled into a Misque. The bowling ally was perfect for a Mosque since the lanes ran East West with the pins being on the East. They call The Bowling Ali Mosque.

So now you know why ISIS is all the fault if BO,!

 

There's no need to counter that which is absurd on its face.

 

truth hurts, huh?

 

The Syrian civil war started after Bush. ISIS is Obama's baby. The sooner you people figure that out, the sooner you will realize what a failure Obama has been...

 

No Iraq War, means no Islamic State in Iraq, which means no ISIS.

 

The US was warned over and over again that waging an illegal war in Iraq would cause a power vacuum that would empower Iran militants and destabilize the middle east. The King of Jordan literally begged the U.N. to intercede because he knew his country would bear some of the brunt of this.

But the Bush administration wanted to wage this illegal occupation...in fact, at one point they tried to blame 9/11 on Iraq even though they knew it was mostly the Saudis (who's family GWB was very fond of kissing and holding hands with).

GWB and his administration should have been charged with war crimes. That's why I don't take any of the republican witch-hunt on Hillary Clinton seriously.

To-date, the Bush administration has never been held accountable for their failings that caused 9/11...even though they were warned that it would happen. They never got held accountable for the illegal Iraq war...which Bush lied to get into...and resulted in the murder of 100s of thousands foreign nationals and 1000s of American soldiers. And the GWB administration was never held accountable for trying to out a CIA agent to create false evidence for the illegal war.

Every time I hear a republican complain about the national debt, I laugh. Republicans are directly responsible for both the unpaid Iraq war and associated interest and they're responsible for the crashed economy under GWB which continues to contribute to the debt. When Obama tried to promote the Simpson-Bowles commission to pay back the debt, the republicans...namely Paul Ryan...refused to implement the recommendations...and Obama didn't have the ability to do it without congressional support. So the republicans are COMPLETELY 100% responsible for the debt.

In fact, when Clinton was in office and there was a surplus, he tried to pass a bill through congress to allow that surplus to be applied to the debt and they blocked the bill. Why? Because they don't want Democrats to be able to make payments on the debt. Instead, they suggested that surpluses were bad and the money got allocated to pork DOD projects and totally squandered.

I seriously loathe republicans and their hypocrisy and their directly responsible for the deaths of a lot of people from the illegal Iraq war and directly responsible for Al Quaida and Isis.

 

It's not ISIS or Radical Islam

It's just Islam.

 

They were punk nobody's in Iraq, hence the move to Syria and Obama cash and weapons. They are Obama's baby, deal with it...

 

Sorry... no need to read any further...

 

It doesn't matter if your ilk acknowledges the bush administration war crimes. The world knows...that's why GWB is in Texas painting dogs and his brother...who is actually competent...lost the primary. Everyone in the world knows what GWB and republicans stand for.

 

Last time I checked, the only liabilities the U.S. government has is to itself and to the public. I don't know what you mean by unpaid Iraq war. Sounds like a talking point.

The National Debt increased each and every year of the Clinton Administration.

Sounds like hate speech.

 

Way to toe that party line, apparatchi(c)k - your masters are happy with you.

 

Of course the national debt increased. It has never decreased. There have only been two Presidents who tried to implement payments on the national debt.

Guess who those are?

President Clinton and President Obama. They can't allocate funds...they can only run a surplus which congress can then allocate. Congress has refused to do that. The Executive branch doesn't manage the checkbook and allocation. However both of the last Democratic Presidents tried to do their job and were blocked by republicans.

And the debt is made up of not just deficits but also major events and the associated interest. Guess what the biggest contributors of the debt load thats been accumulated during the Obama administration? Bush's Iraq war (and associated skyrocketing interest)...and the 2008 economic bailout (and associated skyrocketing interest).

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to look up the actual contributors to the debt. But, of course, republicans won't take any responsibility for their crap. Typical.

This is why Liberals vote Democratic...its because they loathe the hypocrisy and constant lies of the reich-wing.

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Ok...racists get put on ignore....buh bye.

 

Not really, they profiled a guy that wanted to wage jihad long before we went to war.

 

Racist?
Because I used the term "master" in the context of you toeing the party line?


As I said: I love the smell of partisan bigotry in the morning....

 

I believe that aid was arranged and delivered by Israel. It has had a hard-on for Syria for decades now. Notice how free Israel has been from AQ or ISIS attack?

 

without any evidence, of course.

blaiming Jews is the world's oldest hobby

 

This isn't remotely how governmental accounting works. Neither the Congress or the President can allocate funds. The Treasury allocates federal revenue.

You're probably not away, but everyday at least $60 million dollars in U.S. Treasuries is due. The Treasury allocates federal revenue to pay for the interest payments and principal. To say that any government official has the power to refuse to pay back any debt obligations is shear ignorance.

No, the debt is an accumulation of deficits. Interest needs to be paid on the national debt. That is just how liabilites work.

The biggest contributor to the national debt isn't the Iraq War. That has only contributed 2 Trillion dollars within the last 16 years. The bailout was only 800 billion.

The national debt increased from $11 Trillion to nearly 20 Trillion in just 7 years. $2.8 Trillion dollars isn't the largest contributor to the debt. Your math is very bad.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist. That is why the Government actually shows you with their accountability report.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/pd_accountrpt.htm

Year after year, it shows that the largest contributor to the national debt are Health Care programs (particularly Medicare and Medicaid), Social Security, Defense Spending, Transportation, Veteran Benefits, Internal Affairs, etc.

I thought it was because they weren't very bright. That certainly seems to be the case why anyone would vote for any party, but you seem to be particularly proud of your lack of knowledge.

 

Clean Break Strategy came from Israel around 1996 and targeted Syria.

But, this gives a real good account about where ISIS came from, when and why.

Frontline: The Secret History of ISIS

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/

 

Of course there is no evidence. You really wouldn't expect there to be, would you? But what interest does America have in toppling Assad, whereas he has been on Netanyahu's (*)(*)(*)(*)list forever.