The Blue Wall: What the GOP is up against in 2016

As Barbara Walters said, they viewed Obama as their Messiah. When you're operating on that level, it's hard to say why they believe what they believe.

Progressives are very arrogant people by nature and almost always insular. They surround themselves with like-minded people and a constant feedback loop of agreement between them, Academia, and the media gets formed, and endlessly repeated until they develop a sort of God complex.

 

He's not an obscure blogger...Chris Ladd is a Texan who is now living in the Chicago area. He has served for several years as a Republican Precinct Committeeman in DuPage County, IL, and was active in state and local Republican campaigns in Texas for many years.

 

Yeah sure, Chris Ladd is about as "hardcore dyed-in-the-wool Republican" as you and Gorn are. Ladd is so liberally inclined, he doesn't even make it to RINO status.

 

So people that serve as Republican Precinct Committeemen are really Democrats? Your not liking his observations does not automatically disqualify him as a member of the republican party..or does it? Does his telling the truth based upon the stats he sees make him taboo to the radicals?

 

I'm just saying he's a Democrat dressed in Republican clothing, that's all. You can tell by the words he chooses.

 

I am a fiscal conservative (Goldwater style). Unfortunately the GOP is not so I lean towards Democrat (more on this later).

I never voted for Bush or the previous GOP clowns, Reagan and Bush Sr.

Obama is another clown and he continues to do stupid things.

Giving arms and support to Al Qaeda and Al Nusra directly and through affiliates ? The only thing that would have been more inane, with a huge dose of irony is if Bush would have done it (we are not only going after the terrorists but the supporters of terrorism).

This action fueled the rebellion in Syria causing the largest humanitarian crisis so far this decade but helped to create ISIS. An action that was totally illegal under international law.

What has the Harvard trained Constitutional Lawyer done to uphold rights and freedoms ? "If we want increased security, we have to give a little" Obama said in trying to justify NSA spying on US citizens. Apparently it is ok for these folks to lie to congress as well cause the head of the NSA kept his job.

Perhaps some of the duller average Joe's out there buy into Obama's argument but I can tell you for certain that Obama doesn't and for this reason and a host of others he is a disingenuous clown like the rest.

The threat harm to a US citizen from terrorism is 300 times less than the threat of harm from walking. Yes . you got it ... walking. God forbid you drive a car to work in the morning as the threat of harm is thousands of times greater.

Yet, over this insignificant threat of harm we are supposed to give up the rights and freedoms for which so many have sacrificed their lives. Obama makes true cowards of us all.

Stalin was not the first but he pretty much wrote the book on how to use of fear of an external threat to take the rights and freedoms of citizens away.

Stalin called his program "Security for the Motherland", Hitler followed suit an called his program "Fatherland Security".

The Bush administration, again using fear of a foreign threat, called his program "Homeland Security" being too uninventive to even come up with a different name.

And now Obama is walking lockstep in Bush's footsteps.

Perhaps Obama, in his constitutional studies never heard of these folks.

Ben Franklin:

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I wonder how the late Dr. King would react to such a statement from black folks in his time, "If we want increased security we need to give a little; we should shut our mouths and remain at the back of the Bus"

Don't even get me started on the Keystone Pipeline issue. This is only the latest example of the Obama clown-show. Something like 5 studies so far and bipart over how many years all stating that the Keystone will have no significant environmental impact. Well duh ! Not building the Keystone will not decrease oil consumption by one drop.

Obama "lets have another study and create more hurdles" because America is open for business. The arguments by democrats were either so fallacious it hurts or completely disingenuous embellishment.. This proposal has enormous bipartisan support.

I get that GOP have been hugely obstructionist but Obama is no better. Has he never heard of negotiation?

If the GOP were to do a few simple things they would kick the Democrats out of office so fast it would make your head spin.

Uphold the constitution by not letting the religious right force their religious beliefs on others. "Abortion" being the primary issue that is killing them but there are others that relate to this same issue such as Pot and Gay Marriage. ( They could easily spin the Gay Marriage issue in a way that most of the religious right could understand - benefits on the basis of children and not on the basis of the nature of the civil union. Why should two people in a civil union be more entitled to benefits than a single person ?)

They could just not discuss Pot or Gay marriage as the abortion issue alone would probably be enough to turn the tide.

2) Stop being the party that is viewed as racist and for turning the country into a police state. Stop supporting policies that overwhelmingly target Blacks and Hispanics. Again this has to do with upholding the constitution ... respecting liberty (pot, arbitrary detainment search an seizure and the drug war in general) and stop supporting continued degradation of privacy rights and militarization of the police force.

All of the aforementioned are "supposed" conservative values. "Upholding the Constitution".

None of this is likely going to happen. If all the GOP did was change its abortion policy and a few other things that showed it was serious about not forcing religious beliefs on others and upholding the Constitution the Dems would be done in a heartbeat.

 

Fine and along with that, accepting that gay marriage will be the law nationwide, minimum wage will raised by popular consensus, marijuana decriminalized, background checks for gun ownership, not threatening the coverage of the millions already on universal healthcare and few other issues that most Americans support and maybe just maybe the GOP can redeem itself...there's just that one little tiny itsy bitsy issue of the infiltration of radical Tea Party type crazies that they will have to quash to make that possible. An easy feat? We'll see.

 

Here's a blue wall for you. This could happen again if we get a conservative GOP candidate.

 

When gay marriage, pot smoking, abortion-on-demand, federal mandates, and promoting illegal immigration are your priorities; we're talking one sicko set of priorities, that's for sure; and one good reason why the Republicans now control both the Senate and House.

 

It's a cult of personality and the MSM is in the cult.

 

yeah... Reagan, who ballooned the deficit and was in support of amnesty for illegal immigrants already here was certainly what we'd call a "conservative GOP candidate" these days! NOT!

 

Reagan who won in the biggest landslide in American history.

 

You are distorting and oversimplifying and taking the issues out of context while disingenuously omitting other issues.

 

-wasn't a conservative by today's definition. Got it.

 

How funny, you put up a map that could only ever come true in a alternate reality and in your wildest dreams and that has zero factual or statistical relevancy. But if it makes you happy and will assuage the booboo you got from the OP..knock yourself out...LOL

 

go ahead, Dems, SHIFT further to the left, and SEE what happens. Obamacare is going to BURY you.

 

No, actually people were getting buried when they did not have the option of participating inThe ACA

Study links 45,000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance | Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917

If Everyone Hates Obamacare, Then Why Are Its Customers So Happy?
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120275/gallup-obamacare-customers-happy-exchange-insurance-cost

 

I fully expect the GOP to recover from it's 2016 drubbing by recasting itself to reflect the American public because democratic elections make that an existential necessity.

A Party that is 90% White, older, and dominant in the defunct Confederacy is hardly the wave of the future for an increasingly diverse American nation.

Due to successful gerrymandering, they should manage to cling to control of the House until 2020, but the corporate establishment types will continue to suppress the TP wacko birds that adversely impact the Party's viability. (See O'Donnell, Angle, Akin, Buck, Mourdock, etc. As the fat cats' toady McConnell boasted, “I think we are going to crush them everywhere!”)

Well, maybe not in the zany realm of radio entertainment, Turtle.

 

Reagan was a conservative. Even by today's definition.

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And they said Reagan couldn't win.

 

On the bright side of getting trounced there is always the next election where we can appeal to the 22% of the population that is not white in hopes that we can win elections while at the same time we call 78% of the population a bunch of white supremacist racists. Good luck with that strategy.

 

Oh, I didn't realize...is Raygun running is 2016? Believe me, if he did, it couldn't make the Republican lineup any weirder than it is going to be.

 

may be the big mistake the republican candidate will make in 2016
Will be base his whole campaign on obamas mistakes

And not campaign based on his plans if elected

And hopefully It will work for him or Her Like it did 4 Romney

 

My estimate is 190-200ish totally safe electors for the Democrats, not 240 something.

 

Reagan is running in 2016?

Who knew!

 

Yes, that will definitely be a factor. The working class and employer provisions are kicking in now, they're going to hit the Democratic voter base right in the kisser. We're going to see how many Democrats remain in the population centers after the workers suffer a 27% hike in their minimal health insurance.