The Corruption Must Stop

I implore everyone to use their vote to stop the corruption of the Clintons and Obamas. I am listening to Newt Gingrich going over the Podesta emails, and it is sickening. For the full picture, stream the Gingrich interview on the Hannity show. It is beyond media bias. For the first time ever there is a coordinated attack to destroy a candidate. The ties are shown between the Clinton Campaign and specific news outlets. The Podesta emails name names of specific media members working with the Clintons. The emails also show a direct link between the Justice Department and the Clinton Campaign. Let me repeat that, A DIRECT LINK between the Justice Department and the Clinton Campaign. This is outrageous. This is not a conspiracy, it is a fact. This information can be found directly in the Podesta emails.

This has to stop. I would rather a socialist like Sanders become president than someone who is a rotten pox on everything America stands for. I wouldn't care which ideology won, as long as the government is cleaned of the corruption. The FBI, The Justice Department, The IRS, and possibly even the CIA have become corrupt. If Hillary gets elected, we will have the most corrupt government in the history of our country. We must stop this.

 

If that is what is happening, and we really don't know it is, media manipulates; we cannot influence the (E)selection. We can only take our own action under law, our lawful and peaceful revolution and hope to prevent its damage.

 

I agree 100% and its why I decided during the primaries that I would vote for either Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, Rand Paul, or Ben Carson. Rand was my first pick.... then I went with Carson. Sanders and Trump was kind of tough because I am not a socialist but I always felt Bernie was on the side of the american people. Once Bernie was frauded out there was only Trump left.

If it was say Sanders vs Bush or say Rubio right now I would be voting for Sanders. This corruption needs to end even if it means voting for a socialist. I see almost no difference between the Bushes and the Clintons. They will choose the globalist/banking system/ wallstreet elite EVERY SINGLE TIME over the American people. TPP is just another stepping stone for them to make some deals for personal gain. For all the little people its their very livelihood. Families are destroyed due to the corrupt actions of the republicrat elitists and they just smile and tell us everything is going great. Lets see how great it is for them on welfare..... oh thats right.....they exempt themselves from the laws they make for us. YUP!

 

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I would rather have Jimmy Carter be president than the current level of corruption. I really don't care which ideology wins, as long as it is by the people free of corruption. It is cliche to say that all politicians are scum, but this is a whole new level of corruption. When the separation of powers is compromised, the country is really being taken from the people.

We must vote, we must stop Clinton. The Podesta emails are a smoking gun. The media can't spin them away. They will ignore it or create distractions, but they can't spin out of a smoking gun.

If I had the money, I'd try to organize a march. We could call it a March for Freedom. If some of you kids could organize a flash mob, I think it is time to send a message. The press couldn't ignore that.

 

Whining will not help.

American State citizens need to be "the rightful masters of the congress and the court" then use that power to purify elections.

But, the unity to do that is worth working for and when such unity is under the highest law of the land, it is doubled in power. When it enables all amendments to have assured constitutional intent at Article V it is super constitutional.

Preparatory amendment constitutionally enables our lawful and peaceful revolution.

 

They aren't corrupt. They've committed no crimes. In fact, Hillary and Barack seem like great people.

 

I do not mean to sound whiny. I am truly concerned. I do not have a Polysci backgound and I do not understand how we can be "the rightful masters of the congress and the court." I really do not understand how unity can be backed by the highest law of the land. Could you please run preparatory amendment constitutionally by me in layman's terms. Is there some way for the American people to fight corruption? If Hillary gets elected, will we ever get a chance clean out our leadership?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)

Educate thyself!!!!!!

I love Henry David Thoreau.(I will laugh my ass off if the Clinton defenders on this forum start slinging mud at him.)
Edit: But I would not be surprised.

 

If you could provide a link for the bolded bit I would be incredibly interested.

Thanks.

 

That's amusing. The desperate right, bereft of ideas and dignity, is dying a slow and painful death.

It's ironic that the right consistently rails against media outlets, but wikileaks? Wikileaks is the most trustworthy and honest source of information the planet has ever known.

 

I'm done listening to people complain about corruption (in general), until I start hearing scores of people openly and strongly talk about GETTING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS!!!

That is the primary source of the bulk of "corruption".

And for the record, people can hang on all the 'allegations' they want where it concerns Clinton... but it truth, she is likely the MOST THOROUGHLY VETTED (and investigated) candidate in the last 50 years. In comparison, we don't even know Donald Trump.

The goal should be to get as much money out of politics as we possibly can.

 

are you kidding me? Thats one of two primary reasons they go into politics.

please dont use hillary as a solution in a corruption must stop thread.

 

Yet you will notice not one single top ranking Democrat will stand up against Clinton. Every one of them are same old career insider politicians.

 

The amount of corruption out there takes 2nd place to peoples agendas. No one will do the right thing for america, or anyone else until they feel they have "won" in their agenda.

 

Straight from the Reich wing.

 

I agree 100% Unfortunately the politicians will never cut off their cash cow. I don't see how Americans can affect this situation. Personally, I think politicians should just have a website to serve as their resume. Their is no reason to have to buy elections.

 

I find this odd as well. Democrat leaders couldn't be happy about the corruption. There are still good leaders on both sides of the aisle. They need to fight.

 

Not one ever, look at Wasserman Schultz, no consequences. There just give her a promotion, she gets reelected. Democrats don't care , party is god.

 

I always used to shake my head when I heard about how the Mexican people lost control of their government to the cartels. Why couldn't they clean the criminals out of their government and police forces? I have much more sympathy for that situation now. When the government turns, the people have a long tough fight to gt their country back.

 

No, I'm not kidding by any means. (I've known what you said above, for decades. Thus, my general response to 'corruption' and the complaints about the same.)

The people must essentially 'LOBBY' to get more and more money OUT of American politics.

I really didn't suggest that. Even so, Trump is much further from being a contributor to the solution than Clinton, in my view.

Still, the problem of money corrupting our political system... is exponentially greater than this single Presidential election.

 

It's not going to be solved by sitting politicians, overnight. This will only happen when the people are 'moved' and demand it (and probably will to a large degree). It can happen, but I honestly cannot say when/how exactly. What I envision as a solution will take at least a generation to implement... because that kind of change is difficult for a society to embrace.

It's a matter of the will of the people being expressed/asserted. Right now, people generally don't connect the problem of money with corruption. They are distracted by the wrongdoings of 'individual' politicians. They don't zoom their view outward, to see the catalyst (money) perpetuating the greater problems.

There are myriad things that can/should be done incrementally over time, to improve what we have.

Again, no substantial solutions will occur quickly or overnight.

Not at all.

 

read the emails and its pretty plain to see that the entire system is money and corruption. Its all just a big extortion scheme. Seems that everything this corrupt government touches benefits them and screws all of us. as i said its just a mafia extortion operation with a large propaganda machine. Might as well just bring back Al Capone for president.

The entire system is corrupted. trump saying hillary could not get a job as a dog catcher is an insult to dog catchers. The only thing I think hillary might be able to get a job at and serve a purpose would be a body in a dunk tank. Maybe she could be an orange cone at a construction sight.

Its an absolute joke people with this level of corruption such as her and the bush clan even get considered for any public office. These people are the scum of society and add nothing to the benefit of mankind in any way shape or form. There very existence is based on lies, deceit, and personal greed at the expense of good people in this country. Its just sad that a lot of people have not seen it yet.

Every american needs to read the emails. Every american needs to question the media. Every american needs to ask the question..... What the heck are these people doing. i speak of both the DNC and RNC.

 

Dear God in heaven.

 

Whining and complaining is SOP here and in most forums. That's almost all Americans know how to do. It or partisan bashing or polishing is all most members here know about politics. There are maybe 1/2 dozen that are independent critical thinkers.

A polysci degree does not help.

We can be "the rightful masters of the congress and the court" by invoking and using the 9th amendment.

Ninth Amendment to the Constitution

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.​

A non enumerated right is retained when a majority of the people declare it as a right. At that point it can be enumerated by the states through Article V.

The Constitution of the United States
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Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.​

The bolded part indicates a situation similar to what we have. Congress is refusing to call a convention which violates the law, their oath and the constitution. See this page and what started when a letter was sent to the clerk of congress to get a count if how many applications there were to congress for a convention.

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

Article V is a lawfully codified method to manifest the right to "alter or abolish" as defined and granted in the Declaration of Independence.

If the framers intended for Americans to have the right to alter or abolish, then they intended for Americans to be adequately unified to actually carry such action out.

The only thing that can serve the purpose of creating such unity is freedom of speech. Since the right to alter or abolish is intended to protect unalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it is the ultimate right and manifesting the unity needed to do it is the ultimate purpose of free speech.

Since Article V of the constitution, the "highest law of the land" states in Article V that amendments "shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution" while the 9th amendment makes defining rights not enumerated, the exclusive right of the people, the people control the rules all government must operate under.

Since Article V of the constitution, the "highest law of the land" states in Article V that amendments "shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution", and only the people can define constitutional intent or the rights it guarantees, the people ALSO have an un enumerated right to prepare for Article V.

Preparation amounts to three amendments which assure all further amendments have constitutional intent.

1) Ending the abridging of the PURPOSE of free speech.

2) Secure the vote

3) Campaign finance reform

State legislations will have to agree upon changes to their state constitutions to make the function of preparatory amendment work dmo

After preparatory amendment American State Citizens will learn exactly how corrupt politics is, and the government which oversees and controls it through media. Then, after that, with the PURPOSE of free speech even greater unity will be created, the federal government can be purified. Partisan politics will be reinvigorated constitutionally and the republic restored.

 

It's all just fake scandal after fake scandal to the brainwashed left.