The Democrats will gain control of the Senate / 13 days until Biden/Harris are inaugurated

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Good morning.

    Today is Thursday, January 7th, 2021.

    January 6th has come and gone and that day will be a day that will live in infamy.

    Instead of going through all of the details of the Trump-planned-and-executed armed insurrection against the Government of the United States of America (which is quite literally sedition), I am going to let electoral-vote.com describe all of the most important details:

    ElectoralVote (electoral-vote.com)

    The fallout from this will be enormous and no one really knows what will happen in the next days, but it is not an understatement to say that the next 13 days may end up being the most instable period in US-American history since the Civil War, thanks to Donald Trump.

    Apart from the armed MAGA insurrection that damaged the capitol building and cost (to-date) four lives, on the same day (January 6th, 2021), both Raphael Warnock (D) and Jon Ossoff (D) won the Georgia senatorial elections, which means that as soon as Joe Biden is sworn in as our nation's 46th President, the Democrats will gain control of the US-Senate.

    This morning, January 7th, 2021, at 04:35 AM ET, after the illegal, armed insurrection was quelled and both Houses of Congress could resume their work, the electoral count was completed and published:

    Joseph Robinette Biden (D) 306 / Donald J Trump (R) 232
    Kamala Devi Haris (D) 306 / Mike Pence (232)

    There were objections to the electors from four states: AZ, GA, PA and WI. However, in the case of WI, no Senator was willing to sign-onto the objection and so it failed. An event that should have taken, as the maximum, 2 hours, took 15 hours. And surely the members of the Senate and House "Sedition" caucus will be facing repercussions for their disgusting behavior on this day. And should it come out that any one of them helped the MAGA mob get access into the Capitol Building, then G-d help them, they are going to need it. These 7 Senators and well over 100 House members sided with DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

    Biden/Harris have been, for the zillionth time, officially elected POTUS and VPOTUS and in 13 days from today, they will be inaugurated.

    As I wrote, the fallout for yesterday's colossal disaster at the nation's Capitol will stretch out for weeks, maybe months on end. Arrests will continue (58 thus far) and trials will end in very stiff jail-time for a number of extreme Right-Wing MAGA scum who trespassed on government property that was cordoned-off, broke into the Capitol building, defaced the Capitol building, attacked police, occupied the Capitol Building for a while, ransacked offices and left threatening messages for specific members of Congress, refused to observe curfew, etc. The crime of sedition (and yes, it is a crime) carries with it 20 years jail time. Fortunately for us, many many of the MAGA *******s were so stupid, they didn't even realize they were being filmed the entire time (cameras are all over the Capitol Building) and were also stupid enough to take selfies and then post them to social media. Hey, MAGA *******s, the FBI thanks you for your assistance.

    Rudy Giuliani's "let's have trial by battle" statement at Trump's battle-of-the-bulge rally on January 6th, 2021, is bound to land him in jail. No presidential pardon can save him from charges of sedition.

    At least 4 members of Trump's cabinet are discussing - this very moment - invoking the 25th amendment in order to remove him from power.

    Also, the US House of Representatives is sure to consider a blitz-impeachment in order to keep the man from ever being able to be a candidate for any elective office within the USA. Maybe Trump can win an election in, say, Russia? For the law says that if a President is impeached twice during his term (regardless whether convicted, or not), then he is prohibited from being a candidate for any elective office thereafter.

    I expect to see some resignations of key top officials at the White House today, also of a number of White House staff.

    I will be updating this thread regularly during the day.

    Disgusted,

    Stat
     
  2. Statistikhengst

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    I am re-upping this thread very deliberately and with the express purpose of reminding that I have not forgotten the treacherous, America hating weasels who committed this insurrection AND THE POLITICAL LEADERS WHO GUIDED THEM AND EGGED THEM ON.

    I will never forget and I will never forgive.

    There is a special place in Hell for those people and my they end up there sooner than later, but that is up to Ad-shem and not to me.

    I will also remind that I will call out every lie and every liar about the 2020 presidential elections and more specifically, about the illegal, armed insurrection of January 6th, 2021.

    The people who did this are the scum of the earth.
     
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    :sleeping:

    If those people were really trying to overthrow the government then they would have brought and used guns from the start. Not poles. No one in this day and age tries to overthrow a government with poles. That might have been true in the 1100's. But not today. So if you're really going to "call out every lie" I'd suggest you start with the "it was in insurrection" lie. There are currently two "big lies" going on. That the election was stolen through fraudulent votes and that there was an insurrection.

    But, I know you won't call it anything but an insurrection. So I guess this post was a waste of time.
     
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    Your posting itself propagates a big lie, namely that the insurrection somehow was not an insurrection.

    However, it was and forever will be and no amount of disinformation from you or any other person will change the cold, hard facts.
     
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    And no matter how much you scream "INSURRECTION!!!" it will not change the fact that in order to overthrow any government in today's day and age would be to use guns. And NONE were used. That is a cold, hard fact. One that you cannot get past. But you can certainly ignore. Which means you are just propagating the other big lie.

    Btw, the "big lie" was about Trump claiming that he won due to fraudulent votes. Now its suddenly claiming that there was no insurrection? May how that wheel wobbles with all those pot holes....
     
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    There is no provision in the law that says that the only weapons recognized as weapons in an insurrection would be guns. As gunnutz love to remind us, people can kill people with knives and poles and the like as well. So, no, I am not propagating a lie and certainly not a big one at all.

    Do projection much?

    It was not just a riot. It was an insurrection with the express purpose of undoing the results of the 2020 elections, also to kill Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi and as many other elected officials as the scum could find.

    Your 2nd last sentence is partially true. Trump has been lying all along, claiming that he "won" because many votes cast for Biden were "fraudulent". It was this big lie that sparked the insurrection, over which many numnutz are lying and acting as if it was not an insurrection. Of course it was, and not just morally speaking, but very clearly, juristically.
     
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    So what if there is no provision in the law. That doesn't change the fact that no one would even attempt an insurrection without using guns today. We both know this. EVERONE knows this. Even 5th graders. And yeah, people can kill with knives and poles and even barehanded. But unless you live at a time when guns are not in common use, they're not going to overthrow a government. Killing people is easy. Overthrowing a government is not. You cannot tell me truthfully that if you were planning to overthrow a government that you would not use guns. Because we both know that any such attempt would fail right out the gate. And if you're intent on overthrowing the government, you're not going to attempt to fail.
     
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    Actually, it is very important. A difference with a huge distinction. Stop making excuses for the unamerican, America-hating insurrectionists of January 6th, 2021, many of whom are already behind bars for their crimes, although for some I would have personally preferred the death penalty.
     
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    It only makes a difference if you ignore the entire context of all that I said in that post. Tell us all honestly now...if you were going to overthrow a government (lets say the North Korean government) tomorrow would you use poles and knives? Or guns? Why?

    And yeah, many of those rioters are behind bars. As they should be. But to your detriment.....not a single one of them has been charged with insurrection.
     
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    So instead of logic and reasoning you just opted to go with and emotional response?

    K
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    That tactic will not work with me.
     
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    Want to break down your logic then as to why an individual who is about to overthrow the government or attempt to overthrow the government would arm himself with a pole and not a machine gun...


    Go ahead I'll wait

    But failure to respond with any kind of logic or reasoning or even to simply ignore my question outright highlights that I was correct and that you were responding emotionally.
     
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    Your failed logic seems to imply that only guns can lead to overthrowing a government. How silly and poorly postulated.

    Whether or not emotion is within a response if mine is of course irrelevant and certainly not your business, but that tactic, the one your tried to use with me, if often used by inexperienced people who are desperately flailing and often themselves quite emotional. Ergo, your tactic is useless when it comes to any contact with me.

    But feel free to associate with America hating, unpatriotic, treacherous, insurrectionistic weasels if you wish. That's called: freedom.
     
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    Well @Statistikhengst ? Are you going to answer the question? Or are you going to ignore it because you know it proves my point?

    You said that you were going to call out every lie. That you're not responding just shows that you know I have a truthful point...........
     
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    I'm sorry, who was armed again? The only folks with guns I am aware of were the capital police, and the only casualty was an unarmed veteran who was randomly shot through a closed door while said unarmed veteran was in close proximity to other capital police who felt she wasn't a threat.
     
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    Laughable. What do you then call all of those "mostly peaceful protests" that attacked federal infrastructure with arson? Why ignore this aspect of the recent history? Ask some basic questions like "who instigated the negligible violence on the day"? Since really the only real violence was the shooting of an unarmed service veteran in a crowd of other folks trespassing, what is your point with this? Do you feel like your message of national anxiety is being crush because no one agrees with you or this posting of yours outside of the hyper partisan NDP crowd? Ask why Nancy failed to adequately provide security for the building. Ask why the FBI were there, in force within the crowd. And then tell me what about this was actually an "insurrection" as you and your team label it.
     
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    I'm just going to point out that what you've labeled as "america hating" was in fact a desire to ensure that free and fair elections were able to exist in this nation. I suppose to you and your team, having free and fair elections isn't the goal, hence why you continue to describe those who actually were standing up for the rule of law here, to be labeled as "insurrectionists" and you continue to ignore all fo the BLM/ANTIFA folks who actually did engage in rioting, arson, and attacked federal institutions.
     
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    Yes silly me for knowing that if I were to actually attempt to over throw the government...(especially one as armed and powerful as the United States of America) that to RETAIN POWER I too would need to be armed...with more than a pole.

    Unless you are under the assumption that even though every other American owes a fire arm or 3...that NOBODY who attempted to overthrow the government chose to bring them on that day? Which seems to me to be either a miracle of incompetence or perhaps that was never the intent?

    Now for someone who posts stats all day, one has to assume you rely heavily on logic. But in this case, your entire reasoning seems to be rather emotional. I don't know why that is...I have theories...but that's where we are here.

    Your inconsistency in this regard is your own downfall. I didn't have to say anything. I'm just merely pointing it out so you are aware of it. And I could care less as to what you do with that information. Maybe you could make a fancy spreadsheet about it? Break it down into columns. Highlight a few?

    Enjoy!
     
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    I had business appointments. I am now back online. So, what exactly do you wish to bellyache about?
     
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    Do you suffer from spreadsheet-phobia?
     
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    I'd change the subject too if I were you.

    ;)
     
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    She wasn't shot through a closed door, much less "randomly." Yes, there were other people with guns there. And, no Ashli was not the only casualty. But, hey, Ashli was unarmed, so at least you didn't get literally every detail wrong.
     
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    What do you call shooting through a door that isn't open and you can't see your target? Who were the other people there with guns. Who else was a casualty of the day? Try supplying those details first.
     
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    That's what I initially thought happened, and I condemned the shooter at the time. Then I saw better video and did my research. That's not what happened. She wasn't shot through a door. She was in a window, the glass broken out, trying to breech the final barricade, in full view of the shooter, encouraging the violent mob to follow her. The shooter had clear aim and a backstop. Try watching the videos instead of just repeating what you've been commanded to believe about the event.

    https://www.statesman.com/story/new...rs-were-armed-guns-documents-show/7963993002/

    Plus there were long guns back at the hotels of some of these people.

    Rosanne Boyland
     
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