The destructive mayhem and riots around the US, sorry I mean "peaceful protesters"

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    If you show me right wing extremists engaged in mayhem and destruction, I'll take a stand against them. Where did you see any mayhem and destruction occuring at the right wing lockdown protests? Show it to me, and I'll enthusiastically condemn it.

    It's utterly ridiculous to pretend like right wing extremists are involved in these current protests in any way that would make even a slight impact. The only "solid" reports of right wing extremist involvement have been from one blue-city official who made the claim of "online threats" and right wing rioters in a number that was below 40.

    If there were zero right wing extremists involved, their absence wouldn't even be noticed.

    If there were zero left wing extremists involved, there would be no riots.

    Period. Full stop.
     
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  2. Jacob E Mack

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    Here:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/th...-in-the-george-floyd-protests-in-minneapolis/

    https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/fa...sts-in-minneapolis-they-want-their-civil-war/

    https://www.salon.com/2020/05/27/i-...polis-blm-protest-and-anti-lockdown-protests/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergei...ok-blame-george-soros-for-riots/#40fd95424100

    https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/...yd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

    https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_wo...cle_9c9bc762-f94b-5fb4-954a-ce6cfc35f5a9.html
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    And to show that this is only theater for the Right-Wing notice they bitterly complained of a pandemic shutdown, but not a word about the police curfews put in place. The media and fascist right are just playing a game. They make contradictory statements so that in the end they can claim to be right since from a contradiction any conclusion whatsoever can be inferred. So when they contradict themselves they are really not saying anything. Trump routinely records contradictory statements and after the fact selects the quote most correct.

    Here is my argument.

    Contradictions are bad because they allow any conclusion whatsoever to be derived:
    Definitions:

    Ay = Any conclusion whatsoever


    1.)Hy * ~Hy
    Contradiction

    2.) Hy
    1, Simplification

    3.)Hy v Ay
    2, Addition

    4.) ~Hy
    1, Simplification

    5.) Ay
    3, 4, Hypothetical Syllogism “Any conclusion whatsoever.”
     
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  4. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    That is all internet Nazis conspiracy theorymongering.


    Utter nonsense.

    Left wing lunatics are rioting in the streets, and yet the big threat is wacky social media conspiracy theories about internet Nazis?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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  6. Jacob E Mack

    Jacob E Mack Well-Known Member

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    I put the last link in intentionally. It shows reporters attacked and also arrested unjustly by police.
     
  7. Jacob E Mack

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    Your claims are disproven.
     
  8. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    And that supports your 'right wing extremists are involved in the riots' claim how exactly?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Your own source disproved your claim.
     
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  10. Jacob E Mack

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    Not at all. I shared openly the reports and evidence. You chose to cherry pick and ignore.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    You're really married to the idea that 4chan internet Nazis are playing a big part in the riots, aren't you?
     
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    I thought it was the chiners and Wuhan flu? Damn bro who you protecting better question would be "Are you even an American?" :shock:
     
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    And did that save the economy? You know, everyone staying home from work and all LMFAO..
     
  14. Jacob E Mack

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    I'm merely sharing evidence. I cannot crunch stats yet.
     
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    But you're not sharing evidence, you're just sharing what people have claimed to say. So for example, Minnesota got hard fact checked that of the 45 arrests the other day, 38, 38 of them were Minnesota Residents.

    It's the Left that doesn't what to accept the demon that dwells deep within their party, that we know exists from St. Louis, down to Dallas. We've seen these actors, we know who they are. I just wish this administration took a stronger hand, it's time to deal with the situation directly.

    Enough is enough, these animals inconvenience life for everyone else, and I don't recall a vote where we gave them the right and the permission to do so.
     
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    LOL, ya those pesky little stats.. Leftist really hate dealing with those :)
     
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    You support destroying other people's property that has nothing to do with the injustice?

    So, the next time a black person murders a white person, we are full justified looting the community?
     
  18. Jacob E Mack

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    I'm an expert in stats. Hence why I take my time.
     
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    terror.jpg

    What took so damned long?
     
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    We all KNEW you would make a lame excuse and refuse to own your right wing failings. Thanks for not disappointing.
     
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    No. The riots have everything to do with injustice. I don't want to see anyone murdered, but your second question conflate two issues with false equivalence: while all life is equal regardless of race or gender, under the law people of color are not treated equally.

    While there are bad actors from every race and type of employment, African Americans are systematically abused and murdered per capita disproportionately.
     
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  22. AmericanNationalist

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    Political 'concerns', but it's not a political organization, it is as Trump said, a terrorist organization. Now anyone associated with that group can be charged in connection with terrorism, a federal crime. This is called upping the ante, and it's long overdue.
     
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    There is an estimated 1 black person per 6.15 whites in the US, that is 12.9% compared to 80%. This translates roughly to 39,000,000 compared with 260,000,000 assuming a 325,000,000 total US population. Yet blacks are about 74% more likely to die within their state from corona virus than whites, and black men are between 2.5 and 4 times more likely to be killed in a police shooting, while black women are 1.4 times more to be killed in a police based shooting. Overall black men face a 1 in 1,000 risk of being killed by police over the course of their lives.
     
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  24. Creasy Tvedt

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    What "far right failings"?

    Please be specific.
     
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    Take a guess. What percentage of the rioting would you say the right wing extremists are responsible for?
     

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