The dilemma of Arabs and Muslims immigrants in Europe

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by stan1990, Dec 30, 2018.

?

Do you think that sufficient evidence provided to support the views written in this thread?

This poll will close on Jan 29, 2019 at 2:49 AM.
  1. Yes

    50.0%
  2. No

    50.0%
  3. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. stan1990

    stan1990 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2018
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    I wrote a few threads in this forum about politics and religion. In the future, I will write more threads about a variety of subjects like the environment, economy and so on. Members who read my writings need to understand that I don't work as a full-time writer the same as many participants and commentators. For this reason, replying to every question or giving extended details of my views sometimes can be out of my limit. Nobody should describe freedom of speech and expressing an opinion as bigotry. However, ignoring some historical facts and events can influence in a negative way person views and neutrality. I describe myself as a zealot defender of secularism. Defending the history, not religion whatever that is possible is the purpose of my writings.

    The problem of Muslims and Arabs, in general, is their dual views towards many obstacles home or abroad. One of these obstacles is the code of conduct they need to follow in their new country, the infidel west as they describe it. Following the Islamic code of conduct or the western lifestyle is a concern for many Muslims. They receive an overdose of a cultural shock in their first few weeks. While some of them pass the test, others don't make it. In general, the integration of new immigrants is a concern for many European governments. Governments agencies in the U.S, Germany, France, Australia and many others allocated a significant amount of resource for integration efforts, But they failed miserably. The reasons for this failure can be many, below is some of them.

    First of all, many Arabs and Muslims are not ready to accept Western values and lifestyle. They struggle with that dilemma, criticizing Western culture and values while standing in line for hours by the embassies doors waiting for visa approval. They voted for religion at home and chose to live in secular West. Second, they cling to their traditions in a way create great difficulty for the integration efforts. Ideas such as girls practicing sports can lose their virginity is very common among new immigrants. Arranged marriages and polygamy are other examples. Finally, religion attached to their daily lives and practices in a way that keeps them isolated from their new environment and community. They will be looking for Mosques, Islamic schools and centers before asking questions such as where the closest public library or sports center located?

    On the whole, many Arabs and Muslims achieve success and settle in their new country. Muslims and Arabs aren't required to forget the place of their birth, drink Scottish Whisky to prove that they aren't terrorist or stop practicing their faith, the life in the West is not about that at all. The life in the West is about discipline, obey the law, respect your neighbors, to be productive and to make existence there is meaningful.


    End
     
  2. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    5,836
    Likes Received:
    603
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Arabs come to Europe en masse, Many are bringing with them a culture of violence.
    They destroy every good part and are slowly succeeding in making Europe look like the worst place they came from.
    They have 21 countries ... Why should they invade Europe?
     
  3. stan1990

    stan1990 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2018
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree with you that mass immigration is harmful to Europe. But I don't have a definitive answer to your question. In fact, nobody has satisfied answer for you.
     
  4. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,171
    Likes Received:
    1,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's maybe the values of the USA, but not western Europe. There is a lot traitors to betray traditonnal european values to take american one instead, but that's not our values.
     
  5. stan1990

    stan1990 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2018
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks for your comments
    I do agree with you to a certain point. Americans are trying to force their own values down European throats. I hope Europe keep its tolerance culture while new immigrants try to adapt and not changing the status quo
     
    VotreAltesse likes this.
  6. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,171
    Likes Received:
    1,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, tolerance is in our culture for barely 60 years. Tolerance was before never a major european values. By the way, I don't say we should turn into fanatics devouring each other for any small difference, but "tolerance" culture brought only crimes and terrorists attack into europe. Country which don't care of being tolerant in Europe get better than the "tolerant" one.
     

Share This Page