The Diversity Experiment Has Failed Spectacularly...Bring Back The BEST QUALIFIED People!!

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  1. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    I don't care if every person accepted to the top universities are Asian, or that most young doctors are women, or that the only people crazy enough to work 120 hours a week to be corporate CEO's are white males, I only want the best qualified people in every position.

    I want my pilot, my surgeon, and the guy/gal with access to starting WWIII to be the brightest and best qualified. The experiment of putting less qualified people in positions of leadership to increase diversity has spectacularly failed. Look out any window and you will witness that there are morons in positions of responsibility EVERYWHERE.

    We are all beneficiaries of 300 years of the best and brightest dedicating lifetimes of innovative hard work to make this country the best there has ever been. It is time to get back on track and continue that game plan. Be they white, black, brown, green, or purple, it doesn't matter. We need the best and brightest. Everybody needs to put their phones and their Doritos down and get back to work!

    Nobody gives a sh*t what color you are, who you live with, or what god you pray to, just do your job with great skill and you will be justly rewarded. Otherwise, nobody owes you a damn thing!
     
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    That's racist man!
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Everything is racist, haven't you heard?
     
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    Well in a multiracial, multicultural country, race and ethnicity are the most important calling cards, so I don't think you are likely to get your meritocracy again.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    How long do you believe people [of every stripe] are going to put up with mediocrity?

    Remember, Americans are used to being the best. And Americans [on the whole] support doing whatever it takes to remain the hegemon. Do you really believe that the vast majority of Americans do not support having the most qualified people in positions of responsibility?

    This country is finding out what happens when you put somebody unqualified in the Oval Office simply because he was a white male. This could turn out to be the biggest mistake this country has ever made.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Equality" can refer to either "equality of outcome" or "equality of opportunity".

    Many people on the progressive side seem to confuse the two, or make the assumption one automatically shows something about the other.
     
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    This comes from The Economist:

    The evidence from Norway, the first European country to impose strict quotas, suggests that compulsion has been bad for business. Norwegian boards, which were 9% female in 2003, were ordered to become 40% female within five years. Many reached that target by window-dressing. The proportion of board members in Norway who are female is nearly three times greater than the proportion of executive directors (see chart).

    To obey the law, Norwegian firms promoted many women who were less experienced than the directors they had before. These new hires appear to have done a poor job. A study by Amy Dittmar and Kenneth Ahern of the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan found that firms that were forced to increase the share of women on their boards by more than ten percentage points saw one measure of corporate value (the ratio of market capitalisation to the replacement value of assets, known as Tobin's Q) fall by 18%.​

    In Norway for example, a single business woman, Mimi Berdal, sat on the board of 40 different companies at the same time! There were not enough qualified women available to comply with the law. So the few woman that did have experience were suddenly in huge demand. Obviously this did not do much to help all the other women.

    South Africa had the same experiences when they used racial quotas to require that 50 percent of every publicly-traded corporation be owned by Blacks. There were only a small handful of Blacks that had the money to buy the corporate stock, and a select few suddenly became extremely wealthy, again doing virtually nothing to help all the other Blacks. This is how Patrice Motsepe became South Africa's wealthiest man.
     
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    Let me know when republicans start doing that.
     
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    Unfortunately, many Republicans seem to be as weak as most Democrats. Regardless, this non-sense must end.

    All creatures succeed on this planet by working hard [regardless of your inherent advantages/disadvantages]. Making the family the most important institution in this society once again will go a long way to fixing many of the social problems which plague every demographic.

    Rooting-out entrenched corruption [politics, finance, education, health care, the Press, etc.] must start with a movement back to a higher authority. When man depends on himself in providing moral guidance, things go to hell rapidly. God exists because man cannot function very well without Him.
     
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    The diversity experiment is going great. Keep it up.

    Keep hiring good people from a variety of backgrounds to form the best team possible.
     
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    Tylenol and aspirin are racist. They make you pick the cotton before you can get at anything !!!
     
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    Should someone be hired just to fill a racial quota even though they are less qualified than someone who is not the desired race?

    Because that's exactly what this diversity push considers most important.
     
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    In many cases, yes.
     
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    It's literally retarded to hire someone with less qualifications simply to make the social justice warriors happy.

    It's also a good way to lose money and drive business into the ground hiring people who are not really qualified for their position
     
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    It doesn't have anything to do with SJW.

    If I'm putting together a team, then i want that team to have as wide a variety of life experiences as I can find, because when i'm solving a problem, i want people who aren't all thinking the same way to come up with solutions.

    If I had 10 black dudes on my team, i wouldn't want to hire another black dude, i would want someone who brings a different set of experiences to the group.

    There are almost always many people qualified and capable of doing a job, qualifications aren't the issue here.
     
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    Qualifications should be the first Factor considered in all employment.
     
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    Yes, no one should he hired who isn't qualified for the job.
     
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    So let's say you have a team of white males. Now you need to hire one more person and you have several applicants but the most qualified one just happens to be a white male.

    Would you not hire that person? Just so you can say I've got someone different on the team.
     
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    If i had other applicants who are also qualified, i would most likely pick someone other than the white male.
     
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    What if the other candidates were either not qualified or far less qualified?
     
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    I wouldn't hire someone who wasn't qualified.

    Someone who isn't qualified shouldn't even progress to the point of being interviewed.
     
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    The problem is when you start trying to feel racial quotas you end up hiring less or not as qualified people just because their sex or their race is being considered more important than their experience.
     
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    There are things more important than experience.

    Getting along with the team and bringing something to the team that the team lacks are both far more important than experience.
     
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    What makes someone the "best qualified" candidate? Is it just what is on the persons resume? In my opinion what makes a candidate the "best qualified" is the person who appears to be the best fit for the team/department. It's not just about the resume or years of experience. Obviously the person needs to be able to do the job, but personality, IMO, carries a lot of weight. Will this person fit in, is the person a team player. If the person comes off as arrogant and full of themselves in the interview I would not want the person on my team, regardless of how "qualified" the person was. I'll take a down-to-earth easy going team player with less years experience any day of the week.
     
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    That would be part of experience and qualifications.
     

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