The dream ticket that would never work.....

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  1. HeffDaddy78

    HeffDaddy78 New Member

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    I would love for a Rubio/Cruz ticket in 2016, but alas that would never work. They are, unfortunately, not electable because they make too much sense. Some have deemed them too extreme. Thoughts?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have gone past the days when endeavoring to elect honorable and competent candidates to the most powerful office in the known universe is possible. Instead, we elect rock stars. All form, and no substance. Brightest smile and whitest shirt wins! Hate to say it, but both Rubio and Cruz are too homely to have a hope.
     
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    This election is, like most other elections before it, going to be a war over the center. The election is decided by moderate swing voters in moderate swing states, so if the Republicans want to win, they need a moderate-ish candidate. I'd personally like Walker, but Rubio on the ticket might be good too. Walker/Rubio? That gives them advantages in two key swing states, Wisconsin and Florida.
     
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    Too homely, too smart, full of too many answers.

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    Carson/Rubio? Are we saying that Cruz is too extreme in his beliefs to be electable?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's my prediction. The democrats are going to trot out Hillary for 2016, they really have no one else. But, weeks ahead of her announcement, they are going to launch a "republican war on women" propaganda campaign unlike anything ever seen. The will spend millions and millions of dollars saturating college campuses with 'womens rights are in peril from evil republicans!' advertising, and they will organize a road show of speakers presenting on the 'republicans diabolical plan to enslave women and relegate them to the kitchen and 'barefoot and pregnant' status', they will have convoys of buses to ferry the frightened young women to the polls to cast desperate votes for Hillary, who will be perceived as the only remaining hope for women's rights.

    And... she will win, in spite of republicans presenting the 'most qualified' candidate. They need to especially take this into account if they intend to trot out Jeb Bush, who has no chance in hell of winning a general election simply because of his name. Republicans need to have a plan to counter this strategy. You think the 'republicans are racists' campaign paid off for democrats in the last two elections? It'll be NOTHING compared to this. Mark my words.
     
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    He might be. It may not just be an issue of whether or not he is to extreme in his beliefs, but rather that the country views his beliefs as too extreme themselves. He would have a hard time winning over the moderates. I think Walker might have an easier time doing that.

    Also, I'm against Carson being on a campaign ticket. I want a president/VP with experience in the political field. Carson should be running for the Senate or the House, not for president. Take some time, get some experience, craft some policy, gain some more supporters, then go for it. As it stands now, he's a go-nowhere GOP candidate.

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. The only hope the GOP has is of getting behind some kind of moderate in the hopes of winning over the center.
     
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    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Except you being ignorant doesn't change the fact that there is a good bench in the Democratic party.

    Did you come up with that by yourself???? REally?

    Well best way to stop that is to not go after women for being women.

    Really? I bet you were one of those guys who told us Romney would win in a landslide.

    really? most qualified?

    So you are saying that the GOP rank and file won't elect him even if he is the most qualified? Maybe you should get your party in order.

    Funny I worked on one of those campaigns and I don't remember that meeting.

    It was nothing....
     
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    Well, regardless of how strong their bench may or may not be, Hillary is the most likely contender here. You can admit that, I'm sure.

    I'm not sure he was saying that. Jeb Bush's name is a turnoff to most voters after Iraq. He'll need to do something big to win over the center. His problem won't be the die-hard Republican voters. (that is, if he gets the nomination at all).
     
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    The "dream ticket" for everyone involved would be Palin/Bachmann!

    It is the only hope of winning against Hillary for the Repubs... and would be nothing but pure entertainment for the Dems! Everyone wins with this scenario!
     
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    So the GOP Base no longer dislike or even hate Rubio for supporting "amnesty"?!?!?
     
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    Comedy Central, 24 / 7. Yeah?
     
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    if that is true then why are the Dems pushing Hillary ? Time has not been kind to this woman, and between her and Pelosi I am surprised there is not a botox shortage in Washington


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    LOL - I stand corrected. :D
     
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    I have to chuckle when I see a liberal site post a story about Hillary and use a 35 year old pic of her at the top of the page. Don't blame them though she is pretty scary as a 70 year old
     
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    I don't know that Rubio is considered too extreme. Cruz most definitely is viewed as too extreme. He has to be the most unlikable politician in the country right now.Any ticket with him on it is doomed. Only FAR right folks like him.
     
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    Heck yes. They can run Sanders/Warren. That's the dream ticket. Or, they could run another sexual predator, VP Joe Biden. There's always Sen. Harry Reid or Presidential Adviser Al Sharpton. How about George Soros? He's what passes for a soul on the left.

    The list of possible candidates for the left is endless because they prefer Obamas. People who have never actually done anything. Well, that brings us back to Hillary, doesn't it?
     
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    Sure just provide us with a list of the positions thay have in common and have supported consistently and then we can discuss assuming you can actually find one.

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    No we lefties like him as a candidate also.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    So your sole criteria for a presidential candidate is looks? You must have been a Bachman, or Palin supporter.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This election is for the Republicans to lose. Hillary is not electable. Her past is too horrific to actually gain a seat in the white house. All the republicans have to do is not screw it up.
     
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    They make too much sense to hyper-partisan crackpots alienated from America

    Most American voters are moderate, pragmatic realists.
     
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    again your ignorance doesn't change reality. And not all Democrats are leftists.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The hyper-partisan berserkers wee wee'd up by their media entertainers, keep getting their frillies in a bunch over Clinton, but she remains ahead in every national potential matchup surveyed.

    To defeat her only one thing is required: Find a candidate that Americans prefer.

    As long as the hysterical malcontents whine about Hillary and fail to identify, coalesce behind, and support a viable alternative, they are facilitating her election.


    Of course, if those media entertainers deem it in their financial interests to perpetuate their lucrative shtick, they're really not interested in electing someone else.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    No, in reality, most are moderates, but it is those ubiquitous, airy-fairy "Leftists!" that abound in some noggins.

     
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    Lol I love that attitude. "Maybe she does suck, but find someone better!".

    Why don't we all agree to find someone in the middle who doesn't suck and isn't rich as sh*@?????
     
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    I made no reference to her suitability whatsoever, and have no idea why you need to project your personal bias and falsify my sound, practical advice:

    "To defeat her only one thing is required: Find a candidate that Americans prefer."
     

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