The election is over why keep spreading hate and discontent

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Hedgology

    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    Today is Janurary 21st; tomorrow it won't be. I don't see how the place and time changes anything.

    Right now, there are probably groups of people protesting peacefully. I acknowledge that majority of protest are peaceful. All I am saying is majority of the instances of violence is coming from the left at this place and time.
     
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    I never said you needed to respect Trump; I only said this is about respecting the outcome of the election. It's not going to go your way very time.

    But it's a good thing the Democrats decided to abandon the high ground, because consistency is only for winners, after all.

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    I think the tone of this election had something to do with the continuing hate as you put it. It was an election where both sides objective seemed to me to be make people hate the other candidate more than they hate you in search for votes.

    Quite a lot of people took all that rhetoric seriously. Trump is the devil to a bunch of Clinton supporters and Clinton the devil to a lot of Trump supporters. This election was a battle of personas, egos, not one of ideas, solutions or visions. It was name calling and mud slinging. As a result, quite a few people believe what the Clinton campaign said about Trump was true and vice versa, what the Trump campaign said about Clinton. Forgive and forget will be mighty hard to come by just because of the nature of this campaign.
     
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    That's even MORE true for Trump, obviously, since Clinton got almost 3 million more votes than Trump did.
     
  6. Hedgology

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    That's true; but somehow, Trump got sworn in for President yesterday.

    It's almost as if Trump won the competition he was supposed to win during the election…
     
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    Bull. Clinton spent serious time on policy and Trump did not.

    Trump was happy with attacks on people at his events who didn't agree with him.

    Trump led cheers of "lock her up", accused her of stuff that HE did (such as talking to Goldman Sachs, using the money people donated to his charity for personal business purposes, etc.).

    Trump trashed Obama constantly, including in his inauguration "speech".

    And, yes, I hold that in very low regard.
     
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    Respecting the outcome means respecting him. Did you watch tv today? Gonna be a long 4 years for your team. It's not going to go your way every time. :wink:

    But it's a good thing Republicans are listening now because change is com'in.

    BTW...Isn't it considered treason when someone running for an elected office sways the outcome of that election in his favor and gets elected? Just curious.
     
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    Amen to that!!!
     
  10. Hedgology

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    It did go my way. Not for my "team" but the better candidate won.

    Or rather, the lesser evil won.

    I'm interested in seeing what that change will be. If not, I have no issues with seeing Trump in the White House for another 4 years.
     
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    Indeed. And there is certainly NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution which mandates or requires there be no political dissent. The 1st Amendment GUARANTEES that the people have a right to speak up about what they agree or disagree with. That's SO American, that anyone questioning the same, ought to be scrutinized as much as anyone/anything within the total political landscape.

    Indeed after 8 years of RUTHLESS POLITICAL OBSTRUCTION from the Right... there is virtually no reason to call for prohibition of reasonable (if very strong) dissent of the GOP's agenda (whether that be Federal, state or local). In my view, the only good thing about Trump being elected POTUS... is that the Left is more awake than it has been for decades.
     
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    You are minimizing the scope of the protesters and embarking on wishful thinking. You would love to have all the protestations just go away. They won't.

    Today we have hundreds of thousands of protesters around the world, a half million in Washington alone, clogging up the streets and delaying a parade.

    Counting the 67 Democratic members of Congress who were a no-show, Inauguration Day was a black mark on America. We are in for a rough ride with the Trump Presidency. Trump is an angry man elected by angry Americans. To those who voted for Trump, always be careful what you wish for. I am beginning to wonder if some Trump voters are today regretting their decision. Trump appears to be a divisive President. Can millions of protesters around the world be wrong? In modern history this has never happened before.
     
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    The GOP WILL eventually blow it... because of narrow-mindedness and an arrogant spirit overall. They aren't going to fool as many people in perpetuity as they did in 2016. Facing the stiff opposition they surely will throughout Trump's time in office, the effect of their 'spell' upon regular working folk, WILL be mitigated.

    It is only a matter of time.
     
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    Protest are not a way of determining what is right or wrong, but gauging what people think about a particular issue or their opinions about what is going on in the world. Rarely does it ever change anything.

    The only protest that DID matter and DID change something was the one that occured on November 8th. And you lost.

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    But thanks for your opinion.
     
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    Actually, I don't remember the last time we saw a protest by the right. I don't believe they happen, do they? And that indicates the validity of something else that everyone from the center to the far left has been telling the right for years: this country has been sliding to the right for a long, long time. And that means you on the right have little to nothing to protest. It has been going your way or you would be out there protesting too at times. You weren't.
     
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    I have never seen any of the things we are seeing today the day after Obama was elected. You can't compare the two, and you know it.

    Good, I'm glad they are not your people.
     
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    I thought we were discussing the protests happening today with an estimated 1.8 million people in the streets.
     
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    We could care less about the election outcome, the marches and such going on are addressing legitimate issues, before Deplorable Trump sends women back tot he kitchen. Or Vice Deplorable Pence, whoever gets there first. It's not my fault I was right when I said Trump is Retarded Trump (but have decided to roll it back to Deplorable Trump), and Hillary was right when she called out the fringe population as deplorable. The Deplorable's are out in full effect - Rudy Guliani, Trump, Kellyanne Conway (the Deranged Barbie Doll), and all those clueless, deplorable acorns in Trump's cabinet.

    Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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    Passionate people are too much for conservatives to get their heads around, let alone concerned, passionate people.
     
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    Wow, all them people ? Now I really really really care. Still lost . We don't have go listen to any of them . Boo hoo. Would they listen to me.
     
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    The left's common ground is my way or the highway. As far as being against things even they support just to punish America for electing Obama, I'd love an example.
     
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    This is absolutely true.

    It appears to be a difference with Trump, who does appear to be sensitive to what people think.

    For example, he's clearly nervous about killing our health care system.

    He tweeted his "policy" that everyone will be covered - a clear reaction to the FACT that Ryan's direction (so far as known) would dump a few tens of millions on the street.

    Of course, Trumps folks walked the offending tweet back - nothing new their!

    Sooner or later there will be a collision between Trump's flailing and Ryan's flailing.
     
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    That flailing will be interesting to watch, like two fishes flopping on a desk battling for the last gasp of air.

    I know people who are involved in those marches, they are the real Americans in this country. The passionate, concerned, realistic thinkers of this country who knows Trump never had them in mind in the first place. If we're talking the ACA, its simple really. Keep what works, get rid and replace what doesn't. Are conservatives too dumb to figure that out? I mean seriously.
     
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    Irrelevant is what you are ....
    HOUSE + SENATE+ PRESIDENCY...
    ÷ Harry Reid nuclear option × Trump = irrelevant.... Oh I bet it stings.

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    America first ... America first.... America first..
     
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    For many of us, the progressive move to glaobalism is the main reason we supported Trump, who opposes it.

    Like I've said before, I will give Trump the same level of respect that the right-wingers gave President Obama. Let's see who handles it better. I don't remember any late night tirades on twitter by President Obama. I'm guessing that is another "change" that Trump will bring to the White House.

    I and many others opposed this and said so at the time. It led to a higher interest rate on US debt at one point, in case you forget that.
     
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    not hardly, that has been the rights way though sadly, they are like spoiled brats

    the 911 bill that both sides supported yet republicans voted down

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