The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy!

Because I have a mind of my own?

 

You may be the exception.

But I didn't ask you whether you have a mind of your own.

I asked you:

Tell me, what do you think the guy who said this would do?

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our nation is totally divided! The world is laughing at us. Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before

Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty."

Why do you think we should do any different than your dealer leader himself tells us and you what we should do?

The reason you dodged is self-evident. And because you know your dear leader is a pathological liar.

 

You're a broken record. I disagree with the man in this instance. I don't think I need to go further than that.

I know it must hurt to be repudiated by the electoral system, but what's done is done.

 

Never cared much for people trying to tell me what I should do.

 

boo hoo to Hillary and liberal sore losers. You knew the name of the game, you knew the rules, you knew electoral votes were the ones that counted, you accepted that.

If Hillary and liberal sore losers spent their time explaining their vision for the growth of the middle class in Pennsylvania and Michigan instead of calling them deplorables, race-baiting and agitating the Latinos in safe California and Texas, the outcome might have been different.

Did I forget say boo hoo? LOL

 

You should stop complaining and support your President Donald J Trump.

 

It's absurd...

And you know half those rioters dint even vote. Lol.

Not MY president.

People are brainwashed by Pravda, erm MSM.

 

Yes, nonviolently.

 

Bending over to his every demand?

 

We are a Republic, not a direct Democracy. We are a union of the several states. It is the United States made up of the several states. Each state has its own election and each state accordance to its population and the number of congressmen along with two senators casts their electoral votes representing the will of the people of that state.

As a Representative Republic or Democracy if you prefer, we elects other to represent us. Each of us vote in our state and in turn, our state takes the results of that vote and each state casts their electoral votes representing the wishes of the people of their state. At times and it has now happened five times in this nation's history, the electoral vote doesn't correspond to the national popular vote as a whole. But each state had its say according to the people of that state.

As a union of the several states and as a Representative Republic instead of a Direct Democracy, that is the way it should be.

 

Counted votes, not cast votes.

I'm am quite unconfused, especially on the distinction between your and you're

This election is a lawful constitutional exercise. I understand that losing is confusing and you are permitted 3 more days of whining.

 

Oh dear. In your grief you have taken complete leave of your senses. I made no such claims, I am well aware that we live in a Constitutional Republican Democracy and that folks often get frustrated and disoriented when their paradigm collapses. The Academic and Intellectual community thought the nation was following them and now they are suffering through the aftermath of their rebuke. Hopefully they will respond to this by reaching a better understanding of the rest of the country, one built on mutual respect.

 

By our constitution we are supposed to be a Constitutional Republic. NOT a democracy.

What's with the really stupid petitions? Don't you realize that the ELECTION was your petition?

 

Quite the opposite.

 

The system disenfranchises millions of voters and denies the people their choice.

 

I'm not the one "confused". It is your dear leader who told us:

I'm not the one saying: "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our nation is totally divided! The world is laughing at us. Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before

Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty."

Maybe you should take him at his word. For once.

 

Oh dear. Did you even bother to read the article you cited?

When you live in an ideological police state, it’s not irrational to fear a change in power, ...

 

Depends on how you look at it. The people of Georgia voted for Trump, Georgia will cast its 16 electoral votes for Trump and the will of the will of the people of Georgia was met. Same for the people of California, they voted for Clinton, their will was met as California cast their 55 electoral votes for Clinton. The will of the people of each state was met.

Now what I would like to see and each state can do it on their own is make it mandatory that any candidate receive at least 50% plus one vote in winner take all states in order to get all that states electoral votes. If not, you could either have a run off or award the electoral votes via Congressional districts where a candidate received 50 plus one vote and two for the overall state winner.

If both candidates this time around weren't so disliked by the majority of Americans, perhaps there wouldn't be all this discussion about the electoral college. You had around 23% of all America that really wanted Clinton to be the next president, the rest of her vote was against Trump and not really for her. In other words they didn't care if it was her who won or not, just that Trump lost. The same is true of Trump, Gallup and YouGov polls put those who voted for Trump because they were for Trump and wanted Trump to win at 45% of his vote while 55% of his vote was purely anti Clinton and those folks didn't care for Trump, they just wanted Clinton to lose. So only around 21% of all America actually wanted Trump as their next president. This also showed up in their unfavorable ratings or as I like to put it, their dislike factor. 60% viewed Trump in a negative light, 58% viewed Clinton in a negative light.

The fact is outside of both candidates avid supporters, no one else wanted either one as their next president. Blame the two major parties for making this happen. Any other Democrat would have probably swamped Trump, any other Republican would have done the same to Clinton. There is a huge disconnect between our two major parties and most people of this nation and it continues to grow. Both major parties are shrinking because of it and trust in our government is at a all time low when it comes to our government doing right most of the time. Only 19% of all Americans have that trust.

 

No, the people in Georgia did not vote for Trump. 2 million of them did. 1.8 million voted for Clinton. Their vote for president was wiped out.

Why should 1.8 million voters have the votes wiped out?

Irrelevant to the issue.

 

So what are you suggesting, that there be no losers and no winners because 2 million favor one candidate or thing and 1.8 million another candidate or thing? Even going by the popular vote alone, you had 61,039,676 vote for Clinton, 60,371,193 vote for Trump. Making Clinton the winner would be wiping out 60,371,193 votes.

Either way you go, you're wiping out the votes for the candidate that didn't win. But with the young today, this idea of giving a trophy to everyone to include the losers makes one think there ought to be no winners and no losers. Real life isn't like that.

 

you might want to take a remedial civics course before posting on a political forum

First off the USA is a Constitutional republic NOT a democracy, hence these words

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

secondly you can't change the Constitution with a internet petition, considering the current situation there is no way this ridiculous pettion will ever accomplish anything except provide a bit of butt salve to those who sign it. Amendments may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a convention of states called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures. I knew that by the time I graduated high school and I graduated from a W Va public high school.

 

No, because their votes are counted to determine who won the vote for the presidency.

The 1.8 million votes in Georgia aren't even country because all of Georgia's vote went to Donald.

 

Why are you lecturing me? I didn't say those words.

Don't you think you should let the person who actually said them know they need a remedial civics course, and that he can't change the constitution with an internet petition?

 

next time instead of making a thread over such a ridiculous proposal maybe you should let them know

 

Who can forget the 1961 World Series between Pittsburg and New York. The finest series ever played according to some.

The 3 games the Yankees won, they won by blowouts.
The 4 games the Pirate won, they did just enough to win.

The Pirates won the series, despite the Yankees scoring far more runs over the 7 game series.

If this was a Popular vote contest, Trump would have run a totally different campaign and certainly won that one too. You see, poor druken deluded Hillary was campaigning in Arizona, "enlarging the map and running up the score!" while she was losing PA, MI and WI. Where was Trump? Right in the states he needed to be in, getting exactly the vote he needed to get.

He ran a very smart campaign.
Hillary ran a very dumb campaign. She essentially performed as a candidate much as she did as Secretary of State. A total flop, then pointed fingers at everyone else but herself.

I thank the COAL MINERS of this nation for saving us from Crooked Corrupt Hillary and for their mining that will form the background of our resurgent Steel and Coal Industry. It's time to make America Great Again, and trust me, even distrustful little kitties in cute white vests are going to be amazed. They will stand in astonishment at just how Great America is going to be again. You'll be overjoyed. You'll be like "I knew it could be good, but this good!?"