The Empty Headed Socialist Darling Of The Democratic Party!

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  1. Belch

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    You misspelled city. And don't worry, I'm all for allowing you city boys to be multi-racial and bilingual. Out here in the sticks, we speak American and after praying to Jesus on sunday morning, we head to Barney's Beanery for some delicious American food.

    Although I do have to admit that every now and then I head over to Taco Bell to experience some good old fashioned south of the border food. Then of course I always enjoy mac and cheese with some french fries when I want to experience the cuisine of my european ancestors.
     
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    It is not a proven con man industry and there is absolutely nothing wrong with making a profit. Profit is made by people with a conscience.

    Charity is NEVER funded through taxation. By definition taxing someone and giving to others is not charity and you get no points for compassion and generosity when you demand others give to others.

    That ad as a farcical joke it was n fact light years from the truth.

    Bernie is merely trying to repackage old ways of destroying anything good in this world, We know as an absolute fact his methods lead to Poverty and misery. Health care is not a right and never will be unless you advocate slavery.
     
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    This is too much! Thank you Rush!
    RUSH: Here is what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said about Pelosi. “I think absolutely right now she is the leader of — no, no, um, she’s speaker. Uh, she’s leader, Pelosi hopefully will see she’s, uh, she’s the current leader of the party, and the party absolutely does have its leadership in the House and Senate.” That is a verbatim quote.
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Fredo Live on CNN last night. One more time. “I think absolutely right now she is the leader of — no. No. Um. She’s speaker. Or, rather, leader, Pelosi hopefully will see — she’s a, uh, she’s a current leader of the party and the party absolutely does have its leadership in the House and Senate.

    >> https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/08/09/cnn-on-your-host-and-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/
     
  4. God & Country

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    Kind of reminds me of our last president, which I think is enough to prevent her from gaining any real traction. If she does get elected she'll just be more dead wood much like Obama.
     
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    These read like excuses, the insurance industry is a con man industry it has been for years. It can be something as benign as premiums following a minor fender bender, where there is no reason to be raising rates. Health cannot have a price tag put on it, from my experience I can tell you companies like Cigna view health as a price tag.

    No one should be in ill health, and it’s our countries obligation to have nothing less than premier healthcare. Remember how tobacco companies flat out lied that tobacco was not addictive? Profits are only genuine if they are made in god conscience. Insurance is exempt from that.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Making a profit on healthcare for non medical personnel is in the same league as guys who sell fresh water for $10 a gallon during natural disasters. These scumbags are like a racetrack. They rake in the money, peel their 20% or more off the top then let the doctors and nurses figure out how to treat people with what's left over. That's not even counting the hospital administrators who try to do everything on the cheap to save money for the greedy shareholders. Talk about death panels. We should institute a not for profit, Medicare for all system like every other civilized country in the world and with our wealth as a nation, we could and should have the best. First we need to cut these slimeball insurance buzzards right out of the picture and let them find some real jobs.
     
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    No they read like facts which prove you wrong.

    The insurance industry is not a con man industry. Health care is not a right and if it is to be good health care than yes it should have a price tag.

    No person or government owes health care to another. Insurance is not exempt. You simply do not like it.
     
  8. God & Country

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    Bernie Sanders has real world solutions? What particular world are you talking about? Free college? For who? Not me the taxpayer. Every time some nut like Sanders starts talking free stuff he's thinking Scandinavianesque income taxes. That's 60% in Denmark, 56.4% in Sweden and 39% in Norway. Free healthcare for all? uh no thanks, I like my doctor and want to keep him. We need to keep the government out of our health care. The ACA is positively useless, it trashed the absolute best healthcare in the world and replaced it with unaffordable, ineffective, junk. We've already got enough "free" stuff we can't afford. Remember free is the operative word in freeloader and we got too many of those already.
     
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    How much
     
  10. Balto

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    I can’t give you a fixed number exactly because healthcare ebbs and flows in terms of cost.
     
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    At one point we didn’t have the 10th, 11th and 12th grade for people to attend free of cost but now we do. Adding two to four more years wouldn’t hurt if we added like three additional years in the past. Institutionalized college is quickly making a place for itself on the endangered species list as information you learn in college becomes more and more easily available. Yale will soon to reduced to of no significance. Sanders is simply telling us what anyone who has attended even a two year program has experienced and desires. Scholarships can’t be used as an excuse but not everyone gets them and it’s rare for anyone to get a scholarship that fully pays for their education. This is why you see colleges fighting over who has the best amenities to lure people in. Their days are numbered and they know it.

    It’s time to stop thinking of just, “Me, me, me” and more of “Us, us, us.” It’s how our nation benefits. “Me, me, me” is how we got into this mess with Trump. You describe healthcare pre-ACA as if it was beautiful. Um no it wasn’t. Insurance companies were able to judge people based off of pre existing conditions and that’s bad. The best healthcare in the world would have no part of that. The banking and food industries are highly regulated, the insurance industry needs to be regulated as well. Put the companies in a small box and keep them there with no way out. The FDA does this with food and big banks are also put in a box. Trap then and don’t let them go. I’m sure the balance and cash flow sheets of Amica wouldn’t beg to differ.
     
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    What you write isn’t facts, it’s reason the insurance industry is corrupt.

    Get the people who think health has a price tag and a cap to how much they should pay out and send people with a conscience in. I’m sick of seeing companies like this get a pass.
     
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    Why? It's the mantra of the gimmee folks you so love, it's the rest of us that pay the freight that is us,us us!!!! Those of us who work and pay taxes should be calling the shots when it comes to how it gets spent. At the top of that list is National Security and all that entails. Next is law enforcement. Next is education K-12, we shouldn't be on the hook for preschool or college. Next is infrastructure. The rest goes to all of the things it takes to run the government. We've got to stop pissing away money on ineffective, useless, feel good blowing rainbows out yer ass liberal/socialist programs that always fail. If I had a dollar for all those magical fantasies that have come and gone I'd be very wealthy. When you are talking about K-12 and college it's apples and oranges. The average cost per student for their entire K-12 education is below $100 thousand dollars. The average undergraduate degree is now between $100 to $250 thousand dollars and the taxpayers already subsidize a lot of public institutions. You've got to stop thinking of the government as some sort of ATM.
     
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    I wrote facts.

    You simply do not like them.
     
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    My wife is a hospital administrator. She makes her money off of people who get sick and need her help. We also have bills we need to pay, college to pay for our kids (already paid, but you get my drift), and we have a vacation to New Zealand planned for christmas.

    She absolutely loves making money, and loves it when I do as well. Yes, she's trying to make things cheap by doing things like rotating scrub nurses into surgical theaters instead of nurses who have been trained to figure out the difference between a scalpel and a twinkie. By rotating those cheaper nurses from the nursing college into the perioperative department, she's saving lots of money that can be used to pay her a nice big bonus that's going to come in real handy when we head off to new zealand later this year.

    Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to convince me why my wife shouldn't take you for every cent, every dollar, and every sock in your sock drawer, should you have the misfortune of needing medical care.

    Cue the jeopardy music!
     
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    People who are sick don't need her help. They need the help of medically trained personnel that your wife chisels to get her Christmas bonus at the expense of the patients who recieve inferior care. None of this surprises me at all considering your posting history. Maybe there will be a natural disaster close by soon that you can both take advantage of soon. Stock up on plastic bottles and fill them up with swamp water. You can make some extra money selling it to desperate people. That's right up your alley. I can see why you are a big Trump fan.
     
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    How do you think she got her job? Just walked into the hospital and decided that maybe she might want to try her hand at the administration side of things? No, she worked up to that. It's a lot like schools where the principal is a seasoned veteran who still has chalk stains on his suit, even though chalkboards went out of fashion about the same time that cassette tapes did.

    Whether somebody is an insurance executive, a doctor, or the guy who owns the only ice water store in hell, they all look at guys like you and they know that you don't work for free. You soak your employer for as much as you can, who then soaks his customers for as much as he can, and they soak their employers for as much as they can...

    In-between all of these various people charging the market as much as it can bear, what's happening is that things are getting done. People who want medical insurance are being insured, broken spleens are being welded back together, and people in hell are drinking ice water.

    All except for you, of course. Your spleen isn't going to get welded or even sutured, and you obviously don't want any of my overpriced ice water. You're going to go looking for somebody else who understands that your need outweighs their need to pay bills and take an occasional vacation. Then maybe sometime this year, your employment contract will come up for renewal and you're going to be thinking just how much you can soak your employer for because you know that you're a valuable employee who gets things done...

    and you won't even blink at how much hypocrisy it takes to do that.
     
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    The Empty Headed Socialist Darling Of The Democratic Party!
    It's easy to make accusations such as this about anyone. We all have areas of personal weakness. What specifically led you to conclude "empty headed" about this one?
     
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    Like all socialists/communists, she doesn't understand anything about economics, and her interviews are cringey for that alone. She gets that deer in the headlights look whenever she is asked how she's going to pay for it all.

    One of these days she'll learn from Bernie, who just rattles on about a generic 1%. He's also a moron, but his lack of intelligence has already been discussed many times here.
     
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    We "pay for it" with taxes, except under Democratic Socialism, we get something in return for our taxes other than more bombs.
     
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    Free Tampax?
     
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    You'll need it for the bleeding..
     
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    If the debt is allowed to continue to multiply like jackrabbits with plenty of fodder doesn't matter which form of govt is used..
     
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    How about guaranteed access to medical care for every citizen; a minimum "living" wage; tuition free college classes, etc. If you really want to make America "great again," making America aware of and responsive to basic human needs would be a great start. The return from these investments would show in a wide variety of ways, all positive for America as a nation and a society.
     

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