The end of a grand experiment

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    How does presenting facts make me look silly?

    By why separate out just whites based on education? Why not compare how uneducated blacks and Hispanics vote compared with the better educated? Or does that expose a few embarrassing facts that the Democratic Party elite would rather not showcase?

    I'm not embarrassed at all. My views are called "racist" by the left all the time. Means nothing. I can substantiate my arguments with facts and they can only explain it away. That's the stronger position, regardless of what progressive society thinks about it.

    Don't forget that college educated whites voted for Trump, uneducated minorities voted for Clinton.
     
  2. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually that's another falsehood that you bit right down on, and ran with. Trump in the "I love the poorly educated" snippet you have been fed had actually mentioned the Winning with the Highly Educated, the Poorly Educated..and then said he loved the Poorly educated.

    Which the Liberal MSM snipped and made it seem like that's his only Demographic. People like you believed it, and trot around repeating it.

    Heres the full clip that you didn't get from CNN or HuffPo.

    [video=youtube;Vpdt7omPoa0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0[/video]
     
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    America can survive a bad President.... Trump is not gonna destroy the country.... he may cause problems, but not ones the nation can not overcome
     
  4. atheiststories

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    Did you know that one of the candidates won the Large Penis vote? I'm not sure which one did, but one of them did.


    Because they want to know if all educated people are voting in a similar way. This time they really didn't. As the data shows, the more important statistic was the race.


    You can figure that out with the data they gave you. Go ahead and compare it if you like. They don't do it because it would reveal a less significant statistic. Like we discussed, the educated minority vote is smaller than the educated white vote. But I agree, why do it at all? It's a pretty meaningless statistic. You can easily determine how educated voted simply by looking at the educated, and you can determine how the races voted by looking at race. All the distinction does is show you that race was a significant factor. Again, you keep asking all these question. They're easily answered, but if you don't understand how to read your data, why did you bring it up?



    lol let's review your views.
    1) You believe educated white people voted more heavily for Trump
    This premise is true by a small margin!

    2) You believe that since educated white people voted more heavily for Trump, then Trump voters are smarter than Clinton voters.
    2a) You back up this claim by saying that minorities are less educated, and minorities overwhelmingly vote for Clinton
    These premises are false! Educated and uneducated are two mutually exclusive groups! The truth is that there are more white voters overall, which is why they are such a big factor in the educated segment. When 58% of white people voted for Trump, they out numbered the the rest of the groups. Well maybe not exactly, but it was good enough for the electoral college.

    Thank god that it was by a factor within the margin of error though, and it was only a poll, and it only counts the people who actually voted. That's only like 10% of the freaking country, and most of them are freaking retired. Thank god for that. I don't have to deal with their opinions in the work place.
     
  5. Brewskier

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    So you can't answer my question so you predictably throw out goofy non-sequiturs, as if that is helping your argument in some way.

    I agree, which is why I'm asking why they need to separate whites by education level, when they do this with nobody else? Why not just have a column for how whites voted, how blacks voted, etc?

    I understand how to read the data, I'm just asking why they do it this way.

    Yet it is still true. Has been for a while.

    2) You believe that since educated white people voted more heavily for Trump, then Trump voters are smarter than Clinton voters.[/quote]

    Not necessarily. I bring it up to refute the point that only stupid, uneducated white people vote Republican, which is a common talking point made by your side.

    I bring this up to showcase that the Democratic party has a great deal of uneducated people voting for it. This is contrary to the impression the left likes to give off of being the intellectual erudite party.

    Those "premises" are largely the result of your strawman interpretations of my arguments.

    When the trend has been in place for many election cycles, I don't see a reason to question it with respect to the margin of error.

    Let's see your statistics for any of these claims.
     
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    So you're asking a question that you know the answer to?

    It does a good job proving that point, yes. Not only did uneducated white people vote for Trump, educated white people voted for him too. Now... they still might be stupid.

    [/quote]I bring this up to showcase that the Democratic party has a great deal of uneducated people voting for it. This is contrary to the impression the left likes to give off of being the intellectual erudite party. [/quote]The republican party had more uneducated people vote for them in this last election. So if that's why you bring it up, you're argument is false. It's okay though... it was just a poll. They have high margins of error, and the data came out pretty even. So education didn't play a large roll in the decision.

    Like you said, why do they make that distinction? It's pretty insignificant.


    Well 1/3 of the nation voted. Of that less than half voted republican, that's 1/6th right there, or 16%, and everyone knows the old vote more than the young, and they typically vote republican. The youngest Trump supporter I met was at least 45 years old.
     
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    I have a pretty good idea why they separate out the white vote but not the black vote.

    Except it's not true.

    So anybody who doesn't vote Democrat is stupid? Doesn't matter how much education they have?

    This is one of the reasons your party lost this election.

    If the demographics were different more uneducated people would be voting Democrat. Not sure what this is supposed to prove.

    You were championing Obama's 60% approval rating in another thread, which was based on a poll. Are polls not accurate unless they agree with you?

    Agreed.

    National exit polling showed that 37% of the 24 million votes cast by 18-29 year olds went for Trump.

    http://civicyouth.org/an-estimated-24-million-young-people-vote-in-2016-election/
     
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    How would it matter atheiststories, if a college degree is involved when sheep are the subject of discussion?

    gandrews observes the ideals, and One Mind the pragmatic view of dysfunction, but neither can take a cognitive positive step in the right direction unless it follows that of the flock surrounding them, which can only argue the different aspects of the same event as they demonstrate with ignorant bliss.

     

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